TOPIC: True Dungeon Character Generators (App)

All damage to players, besides push damage and most eldritch damage, always applies to Melee, Range or Spell DR. In your fireball cases, those calculations are correct, assuming Spell DR 3 and Fire DR 3 (not from Deathward Greaves).
If you are hit with dragon breath, that will likely be Spell DR and Fire DR. If you get hit by a dragon claw, Melee DR applies. If you get hit by a darkrift bolt, that would be Range DR and Darkrift DR.
Some damage does not have environmental effects, like a dragon claw, so only the Melee DR or Range DR would apply. If the damage is Cold or Fire, or Shock, etc., then you get the attack type DR and the environmental DR.

Cranston wrote: All damage to players, besides push damage and most eldritch damage, always applies to Melee, Range or Spell DR. In your fireball cases, those calculations are correct, assuming Spell DR 3 and Fire DR 3 (not from Deathward Greaves).
If you are hit with dragon breath, that will likely be Spell DR and Fire DR. If you get hit by a dragon claw, Melee DR applies. If you get hit by a darkrift bolt, that would be Range DR and Darkrift DR.
Some damage does not have environmental effects, like a dragon claw, so only the Melee DR or Range DR would apply. If the damage is Cold or Fire, or Shock, etc., then you get the attack type DR and the environmental DR.

Pardon me for still being confused. Maybe it's the "not from Deathward Greaves" wording that you used. Maybe this will help:

If I only have the Deathward Greaves equipped and no other DR items and I get hit with a fireball from a wizard that does 10 points of damage. What is my total DR? 3 or 6?

Deathward Greaves provides 3 damage resistance against all damage except Eldritch or Push damage.
For the example 10 point Fireball, it provides 3 reduction leaving 7 points.

That is why it only shows up in Melee, Range and Spell resistance, so it only gets counted once for each attack.

Cranston wrote: Deathward Greaves provides 3 damage resistance against all damage except Eldritch or Push damage.
For the example 10 point Fireball, it provides 3 reduction leaving 7 points.

That is why it only shows up in Melee, Range and Spell resistance, so it only gets counted once for each attack.

Got it ok thank you. I'm guessing the website character creator should be updated to reflect this.

I just noticed something. In the app when my Barbarian goes from 4th to 5th level all categories in the Damage Resistance section (except Eldritch) are increase by 1. Doesn't this go against what was just discussed about the Deathward Greaves which only increases the Melee, Ranged and Magic sections? The wording on the Barbarian 5th level character card is almost synonymous with the wording on the TokenDB for the Deathward Greaves. Based on what was said earlier, I would think that when going from 4th to 5th level only the Melee, Ranged and Magic sections in the app should increase by 1?

Cranston wrote: Deathward Greaves provides 3 damage resistance against all damage except Eldritch or Push damage.
For the example 10 point Fireball, it provides 3 reduction leaving 7 points.

That is why it only shows up in Melee, Range and Spell resistance, so it only gets counted once for each attack.

The above is correct. I just wanted to point out that the following (from an earlier post):

Cranston wrote: BTW: if there is a save for half damage, the total DR for the player must also be cut in half. DR is against the total damage before accounting for the save.

is wrong. DR should apply AFTER the save, not before. For example: you have 3 spell DR and 2 fire DR. A monster casts a 10-point fireball at you, but you succeed a save for half. First, the save reduces it to 5 fire damage, then your spell DR reduces it to 2 damage, then your fire DR reduces it to the final result of 0 damage taken.

Andrew Knoll wrote:

Cranston wrote: Deathward Greaves provides 3 damage resistance against all damage except Eldritch or Push damage.
For the example 10 point Fireball, it provides 3 reduction leaving 7 points.

That is why it only shows up in Melee, Range and Spell resistance, so it only gets counted once for each attack.

The above is correct. I just wanted to point out that the following (from an earlier post):

Cranston wrote: BTW: if there is a save for half damage, the total DR for the player must also be cut in half. DR is against the total damage before accounting for the save.

is wrong. DR should apply AFTER the save, not before. For example: you have 3 spell DR and 2 fire DR. A monster casts a 10-point fireball at you, but you succeed a save for half. First, the save reduces it to 5 fire damage, then your spell DR reduces it to 2 damage, then your fire DR reduces it to the final result of 0 damage taken.

I stand corrected. Before VTD (like fighting Smoak) it was DR first and 1/2 of the remaining with a saving throw. In checking the Player guide, I see that has flipped, so the 1/2 from saving throws is done first, and then DR applied to what is left. In short Andrew is correct.

Cranston, thank you for all your hard work on the app! For planning purposes, do you expect to release an updated version before Ring Con? I’m particularly wondering whether the new Marks of Enlightenment will be added to the app.

I would also love to be able to equip the new Underling. I understand that time is short and would be fine if this can't happen. It's an easy add in coaching.

There are no plans at the moment to submit a new build before Ring Con. The next planned release will be for Gencon. I expect the Artificer will be in place for Gencon. Mark of Enlightenment is still debatable. The variable nature of the Mark of Enlightenment makes it complicated to say the least.

Thank you for the information, and again, for all of your hard work on the app.

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