TOPIC: Distrubtion Method for Combo Items Discussion

One of the basic issues that needs to be solved first is the question of supply.<br /><br />Is TD going to print enough combo tokens to meet the demand or do they want the combo tokens to be rare?  If there are going to be plenty of tokens (my personal choice), then TD should make an effort to make the combo tokens available at multiple times.  I have suggested that Dave appoint some deputies that are able to distribute the C1, C2 and common resourse tokens.  I think the demand for tokens could easily take hours of Dave's time.  <br /><br /><br /><br />If there are going to an intentionally limited number of combo tokens then we need to descide a "fair" way to distribute them.  This is going to make someone unhappy no matter how we do it.

<br />I<br />I would like to suggest a variation on Greyseer's idea. In 2006, we were only allowed to make a single token, until everyone had their chance in line, to be sure Dave would have extras before we made more than one. What if we might be able to send the tokens for one of each of the combo tokens, to guarantee that each person sending in tokens could get one for themselves. Dave would then have our names on a list and give them out when he saw us, or at some specified time. This would prevent the problem with time/postage.<br /><br />

<br /><br />This would be a good start but we still need to take care of folks at GenCon.  And people interested in duplicates. 

<br />Keep in mind that the combo tokens were originally designed to be an at the con type of even and transaction.  If we take orders ahead of time, while it wont hit all the people who desire the tokens, will pretty much defeat the desire to have something to do at the con, with tokens.<br /><br />Having said that, keep the ideas coming.  It will help when we get to that point.<br /><br />Dave<br /><br />

<br /><br />Dave,<br />    The HUGE advantage of doing tokens is advance is that it eliminated the conflict between going on a TD run and trading tokens.    If you say that you are trading tokens at 7:00 PM, people are unable to schedule a dungeon run between 5:00 PM and 8:00 PM.  That is a huge number of dungeon runs that token collectors must avoid. 

My only recollection of the turn at the Con was how long it took, standing around, straining to hear your number called, waiting for the tokens to be double checked and coins counted.  I agree that everything needs to be validated. <br />Perhaps the solution is like what was mentioned earlier, a mail in with a ticket mailed for redemption.  Advantages include lower postage fees, allows more time for the attendees to enjoy the convention by speeding up the turn in, plus all the advantages of a mail in.  This approach still means you can only get the tokens at the convention.  <br />

I think mail in and either tokens sent or ticket sent is a fine idea....<br /><br />Saves time and hassle all around!<br /><br />G

<br />One of the basic issues that needs to be solved first is the question of supply.<br /><br />Is TD going to print enough combo tokens to meet the demand or do they want the combo tokens to be rare?   If there are going to be plenty of tokens (my personal choice), then TD should make an effort to make the combo tokens available at multiple times.  I have suggested that Dave appoint some deputies that are able to distribute the C1, C2 and common resourse tokens.  I think the demand for tokens could easily take hours of Dave's time.  <br /><br /><br /><br />If there are going to an intentionally limited number of combo tokens then we need to descide a "fair" way to distribute them.  This is going to make someone unhappy no matter how we do it. <br />

<br /><br />George,<br /><br />  I totally agree with you. This whole discussion is predicated on the idea that there will be enough tokens to meet needs. But, that was certainly not the case in 2006, when there was only a certain amount of each token made. <br /><br />  It would seem that this discussion would be more useful if we knew whether it was going to be: enough for demand, or explicit number printed only.<br /><br />

We are going to print the following numbers:<br /><br />1C Boots: 300<br /><br />2C Staff: 200<br /><br />3C Bracelets: 200<br /><br />4C Medallion: 200<br /><br />I appreciate everyone's passion for Comboing tokens.  It is really cool.  But to be fair to the other 95% of Td players who don't combo, it is important to but a limit on Dave's time before and during the Con.  In the past, there have been times when I have allowed some little stuff to demand too much time away from the actual event -- and as such the event has suffered.  It is always a balancing act to try to weigh all these factors together to determine how much resources to give a certain aspect of the event.  The more we take of Dave's time -- the worse for the general event.  <br /><br />Thanks for all your input.  We will have an announcement on the exact schedule very soon.

I'll try to make sure that I or another volunteer help Dave with the combo tokens. That seemed to help things move faster.

Except for the C1 tokens those number are GREAT.    <br /><br />Demand will exceed the supply of the C1 tokens, so please be prepared for that.  You will need to limit purchases in some fashion.    <br /><br />I agree 100% that Dave's (and your's and Lori's and any other directors) time at GenCon is a precious resource.  Any way that we can find to reduce the amount of time spent on tasks like distributing tokens is a big plus. 

Offhand, that seems like a very small limit, considering just the forum-goers alone could exhaust those amounts.

I agree.  Those seem to be small numbers except maybe the 4C.  Just means I'll have to make sure to be in line and ready to turn in some time before the first turn-in session.

Golly those sound like small quantities.  Is there a way that you can ask for a volunteer that you trust to count combination tokens pre-GenCon so that we do not take up Dave’s time and we could get more combination tokens?<br /><br />I would be willing to help, but you all don't know me that well yet.  <br /><br />I would be willing to make a log with name, address, email, and serial number (and whatever other descriptor information you would feel would be necessary).  I could even require folks to IM that information so I would not have to type it out.  Then just email out the voucher information, and cross it off the log when redeemed at the convention.<br /><br />Perhaps you all could have a counting party.  Like a barn raising.  I would be willing to drive down some weekend to be supervised (seems practical).  I bet I could make a mini weekend vacation out of it (lets see how the wife feels about that idea).<br /><br />For the large quantity combination items you could quickly verify that they are the correct token, and weigh the lot of 24 X tokens or whatever.<br /><br />