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FINAL Ultra Rare Images 5 years 7 months ago #97

Ian Lee wrote: I never cared about Hat of the Hellway to begin with so I only just thought about what a minor increase over Loki's Trickster Cap it is.

+1

... or should it be -1?... It feels terrible.
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FINAL Ultra Rare Images 5 years 7 months ago #98

Phrash wrote:

Ian Lee wrote: I never cared about Hat of the Hellway to begin with so I only just thought about what a minor increase over Loki's Trickster Cap it is.

+1

... or should it be -1?... It feels terrible.


I'm inclined to agree. I definitely find it underwhelming.

Would a new player who opens their 10 pack be excited for this? I'm not so sure.

I think that should be a minimum standard for UR tokens.
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FINAL Ultra Rare Images 5 years 7 months ago #99

Wade Schwendemann wrote:
Would a new player who opens their 10 pack be excited for this? I'm not so sure.

I think that should be a minimum standard for UR tokens.


I think that is a great standard

The process should focus on making great tokens that are not broken, but how would you feel if you pulled that new kilt or the hat. Probably not great if your a new player. I went from considering buying one of the hats to now not really wanting one as my random. I only want the kilt for transmute.
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FINAL Ultra Rare Images 5 years 7 months ago #100

Wayne Rhodes wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote:
Would a new player who opens their 10 pack be excited for this? I'm not so sure.

I think that should be a minimum standard for UR tokens.


I think that is a great standard

The process should focus on making great tokens that are not broken, but how would you feel if you pulled that new kilt or the hat. Probably not great if your a new player. I went from considering buying one of the hats to now not really wanting one as my random. I only want the kilt for transmute.


I agree, I don't see any use for the UR kilt other than to transmute, and I might not even wear it if I opened it randomly. That's pretty rough on a newbie. -4 Con really stings. If we want it to remain +6 Str, I don't know how else we balance it though.
First ever death in True Horde
"Well, with you guarding 2 players, that means you take 90. Are you dead?"
-Incognito

My token shop/trade thread: Wade's Wide World of Wonder 

My Current Paladin Build 
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FINAL Ultra Rare Images 5 years 7 months ago #101

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

Wayne Rhodes wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote:
Would a new player who opens their 10 pack be excited for this? I'm not so sure.

I think that should be a minimum standard for UR tokens.


I think that is a great standard

The process should focus on making great tokens that are not broken, but how would you feel if you pulled that new kilt or the hat. Probably not great if your a new player. I went from considering buying one of the hats to now not really wanting one as my random. I only want the kilt for transmute.


I agree, I don't see any use for the UR kilt other than to transmute, and I might not even wear it if I opened it randomly. That's pretty rough on a newbie. -4 Con really stings. If we want it to remain +6 Str, I don't know how else we balance it though.


It’s probably too late to change it but I was already in favor of dropping it to a +4 STR to get the transmute to something like 4/6/6 choice.

I think the nerf hammer was way too strong on this one.
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FINAL Ultra Rare Images 5 years 7 months ago #102

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

Phrash wrote:

Ian Lee wrote: I never cared about Hat of the Hellway to begin with so I only just thought about what a minor increase over Loki's Trickster Cap it is.

+1

... or should it be -1?... It feels terrible.


I'm inclined to agree. I definitely find it underwhelming.

Would a new player who opens their 10 pack be excited for this? I'm not so sure.

I think that should be a minimum standard for UR tokens.


As a rule, new players love AC and HP.
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FINAL Ultra Rare Images 5 years 7 months ago #103

Wayne Rhodes wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote:
Would a new player who opens their 10 pack be excited for this? I'm not so sure.

I think that should be a minimum standard for UR tokens.


I think that is a great standard

The process should focus on making great tokens that are not broken, but how would you feel if you pulled that new kilt or the hat. Probably not great if your a new player. I went from considering buying one of the hats to now not really wanting one as my random. I only want the kilt for transmute.


Love the way the charm went from "not really wanting one as my random" to I'd definitely want one as a PYP if I were monk/fighter/ranger main.
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