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TOPIC: 2021 Ultra Rare Feedback

2021 Ultra Rare Feedback 3 years 7 months ago #1

Here are the big guns. The Lucky Cloak are a part of the Lucky URs from 2020. Note to Lords and Ladies - for balance and stacking reasons, all the URs that transmute up to class-specific Relics were moved to Neck slot items. And hopefully the new text on Jinn's Magebook Medallion will make it easier to understand.

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2020 Ultra Rare Feedback 3 years 7 months ago #2

Charm of the Brewmaster Questions
- Is this a FA each turn in a room?
- Is the restriction of being a different potion applied to an individual room or the run?

Like the change to URs used for tranmuting to class-specific relics being in the neck slot.
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2020 Ultra Rare Feedback 3 years 7 months ago #3

Necklace of prayer bead. Is that supposed to say "2nd level" spells, or should it really say "2nd". If the latter, how is that to be interpreted? 2nd spell per round? per room?
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2020 Ultra Rare Feedback 3 years 7 months ago #4

Does the change to the Wizard medallion mean you gain 5 additional first level spells? Can they still be swapped for existing 1st level spells or are you now limited to 5 total uses?

PLEASE get rid of the Bracelets of Power and just reprint the +2 Staff of Power. The bracelets have WAY too much competition to be used, would stack with the staff and would not remove the requests to reprint the +2 Staff of Power. In all ways it would be better to simply reprint the +2 Staff of Power.

PLEASE add damage spells back to the Ring of the Siren. Without it there are VERY FEW players willing to equip a ring that doesn't in some way boost spell damage.
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2020 Ultra Rare Feedback 3 years 7 months ago #5

Jinn's Medallion -

Add 5 scrolls to your character build (common/uncommon, wizard usable)

These can be cast as 1st level spells.
These will get spell checks to gain +3 damage as normal
Does this change slide scrolls to non slide or what is done with them? Do they gain +3 damage if they hit?

The top of the card is marked? Does this mean we get 5 extra 1st level spell slots?
Can you still swap existing 1st level spells?
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2020 Ultra Rare Feedback 3 years 7 months ago #6

Really like the changes to Cranston's.

Putting the +3 saves back on the cloak and making it a part of the lucky set is interesting. Like it.

Making all the class relic components necks was a good change.

Changes to Brewmaster's are interesting, but I'm still not sure I'd use it at the UR level. I find hard to justify putting this in a build as a UR with Pouch of Tulz as a slotless (although less-powerful) alternative. My feeling is a watered-down rare version might see more use.

I know people were really hankering for a reprint or functional reprint of the Mithral Gauntlets, so that's also great.

Arcanist Kolixela wrote: PLEASE add damage spells back to the Ring of the Siren. Without it there are VERY FEW players willing to equip a ring that doesn't in some way boost spell damage.


I do agree with this comment. Siren's seems quite weak now. I would not want to put this in any build.
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2020 Ultra Rare Feedback 3 years 7 months ago #7

Bracelets of Power - Is it possible to go back to Bracelets of the Eel? I think that token had a wider audience than the Bracelets of Power.

Charm of the Brewmaster - Is the intent to allow the character to drink a potion as a free action every round? If that's correct, I love the design.

Gloves of the Dire Bear - These look like dishwashing gloves. Is it possible to change the art to get less of a latex look?

Lucky Cloak will be much more popular than Lucky Boots. That does leave 0 PYP options for the feet slot for 2020-21 though.

Necklace of Prayer Beads looks like it's missing (2nd) "lvl"

Ring of the Siren - unfortunate to see spell damage taken off. Maybe add +2 to healing scrolls to make it more desirable?
"IMHO we like to solve problems here on the forums that are only perceived problems due to a myopic view." -Bob C
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2020 Ultra Rare Feedback 3 years 7 months ago #8

Is the Intent of the Axe of the Dwarvish Kings to give a non magical UR weapon? It seems a bit odd in design in general?

If you don't want to reprint the +2 Staff of Power could we at least move the of power effect to a slot with more than 1 item? Ioun Stone or Charm? Preferably Ioun Stone since we don't have a massive number of great IS options for casters.

I question how if the Ring of Sacrifice will be picked up by the classes that can equip it. Not my classes tho so I will let them comment.
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2020 Ultra Rare Feedback 3 years 7 months ago #9

Arnold wrote: Bracelets of Power - Is it possible to go back to Bracelets of the Eel? I think that token had a wider audience than the Bracelets of Power.

Ring of the Siren - unfortunate to see spell damage taken off. Maybe add +2 to healing scrolls to make it more desirable?


The Bracelets of Power are a side level reprint of the +2 Staff of Power, but I agree I don't think there is any audience for this particular token due to the Arcane set, the Cabal set, the Charm Bracers. Just far too many stronger tokens available in this slot.

Ring of the Siren really needs to affect spell damage and/or healing for it to be viable as a ring. Boosts purely to scrolls and wands makes it very limited.
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2020 Ultra Rare Feedback 3 years 7 months ago #10

I like
  • The change to the dwarf axe (graphically, and text).
  • The graphic change to the bracelet
  • The graphic change to the charm
  • That the Luck Cloak came back. (but It was ok as boots too)
  • And I also like the addition of Stu's Pendant!

Interesting switch on the gloves

Thanks Jeff.
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2020 Ultra Rare Feedback 3 years 7 months ago #11

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Arnold wrote: Bracelets of Power - Is it possible to go back to Bracelets of the Eel? I think that token had a wider audience than the Bracelets of Power.

Ring of the Siren - unfortunate to see spell damage taken off. Maybe add +2 to healing scrolls to make it more desirable?


The Bracelets of Power are a side level reprint of the +2 Staff of Power, but I agree I don't think there is any audience for this particular token due to the Arcane set, the Cabal set, the Charm Bracers. Just far too many stronger tokens available in this slot.

Ring of the Siren really needs to affect spell damage and/or healing for it to be viable as a ring. Boosts purely to scrolls and wands makes it very limited.


+1 on this Sentiment.

I fulled expected the Bracers or the Eel to be replaced with Bracers of Supreme Archery; then see the Staff of Power +2 reprinted next year.
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2020 Ultra Rare Feedback 3 years 7 months ago #12

Aothos wrote:

Arcanist Kolixela wrote:

Arnold wrote: Bracelets of Power - Is it possible to go back to Bracelets of the Eel? I think that token had a wider audience than the Bracelets of Power.

Ring of the Siren - unfortunate to see spell damage taken off. Maybe add +2 to healing scrolls to make it more desirable?


The Bracelets of Power are a side level reprint of the +2 Staff of Power, but I agree I don't think there is any audience for this particular token due to the Arcane set, the Cabal set, the Charm Bracers. Just far too many stronger tokens available in this slot.

Ring of the Siren really needs to affect spell damage and/or healing for it to be viable as a ring. Boosts purely to scrolls and wands makes it very limited.


+1 on this Sentiment.

I fulled expected the Bracers or the Eel to be replaced with Bracers of Supreme Archery; then see the Staff of Power +2 reprinted next year.


Bracers of Supreme Archery got a reprint 5 years ago. The +2 Staff of Power has been 10 years. It's past due for the reprint
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