TOPIC: 2027 Treasure Token Notes

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Kusig wrote: Q. If a Paladin equips a Tobin's Cosmic Ring, do
they have to pick between damage and an
additional Guard?
Yes. They cannot get both powers

The ring should allow Paladins to get both powers. Without both I doubt it takes over the slot from other rings. We'd probably be better off just getting an Amulet of Guarding reprint than this ring.

Can you say more about that?

It seems like if a Paladin wants the 2nd guard ability a choice between starting with:

A. Ability to guard 2 people and 2 ring slots. (Via Amulet of Guarding)

B. Ability to guard 2 people and 1 Neck and 1 ring slot. (Via Tobin's)

I'd have thought B is the more appealing option - especially with the Necklace of Baubles being printed this year and tokendb.com/token/earcuff-of-greater-glory/ making Ring slots a bit more flexible.

Not really without doing a lot of scenario building and investing way more time than its worth given the fact it probably won't be changed either way.

I notice for the Dream condition there are both common (scroll) and uncommon (potion) ways of undoing the Dream condition.

So it seems people might be going in and out of dream quite a bit.

This makes me wonder if when a character is brought back from dream, can they act in the same around?

E.g.:

In Combat the monster has won initiative.

Round 1 Monster Turn: Monster causes the Ranger to make a Dream save, which the Ranger fails. The Ranger has the Dream status.

Round 1 Player Turn: Cleric uses Scroll Dream Break targeting the Ranger.

Question: Can the Ranger now attack / use actions during Round 1? Or do they have to wait until round 2?

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Corey Pressler wrote: Again, just to reiterate, Smith's Charm should only require 3 UR's over the course of the transmute:

1 UR for the Relic
2 UR for the Legendary

Not 6! Unless we are seeing some type of Shrinkflation with TD to combat tarriff's. I was all about making Smith's Charm, but otherwise I'm not so sure if 6 UR's are required.

It seems like you're basing your numbers for UR ingredients off recent Legendary / Relic transmutes.

The Relic Charm of Awakened Synergy was unique in requiring 2 URs to make a relic.

I'm not saying the recipes are correct / perfect now - I'm just noting that Charm of Awakened Synergy has a higher UR cost than typical Relics. So I don't think it's necessarily the case that the new synergy relic, and a new synergy legendary would have the same UR cost than other relics / legendries.

Mostly basing my numbers on almost every Relic and Legendary. Now that I know there were 2 UR's for the CoAS, I feel even more strongly about keeping the recipe to only use 3 UR's in the entire chain.

Not only that, but because the Charm of Awakened Synergy took 2 UR's to make, the TG cost was fairly low as well.

If we can get a recipe for the Legendary, that uses both relics, I'd imagine the costs for TG's would reflect that as well.

Why 2026 URs in the synergy recipes instead of 2027 tokens.

Wayne Rhodes wrote: Why 2026 URs in the synergy recipes instead of 2027 tokens.

I'm going to guess that was an oversight.

A quick correction and amendments to a few things in Jeff's place today.

The recipe template for the Charm of Unity and Smith's Charm of Unity had two typos by me.

• The year should be 2027, not 2026. This was me trying to not write down the wrong so close to new years. And I overcorrected
• Charm of Unity should require Charm of Coordination in its recipe list, not the Charm of Unity itself

The corrected template is below for this iteration
Charm of Unity (Relic)
1x Charm of Coordination
ONE of the following options:
    1x Charm of Awareness
    2x 2027 URs
XX Alchemist Ink
XX Alchemist Parchment
XX Aragonite
XX Darkwood Plank
XX Dwarven Steel
XX Elven Bismuth
XX  Enchanter's Munition
XX Golden Fleece
XX Minotaur Hide
XX Mystic Silk
XX Oil of Enchantment
XX Philosopher's Stone
5,000 GP in Reserve Bars

Smith's Charm of Unified Synergy
ONE of the following sets:
    SET 1:
        1x Charm of Awakened Synergy
        1x Charm of Coordination
    SET 2:
        1x Charm of Unity
        ONE of the following options:
              1x Charm of Synergy
              2x 2027 URs
2x 2027 URs
XX Alchemist Ink
XX Alchemist Parchment
XX Aragonite
XX Darkwood Plank
XX Dwarven Steel
XX Elven Bismuth
XX  Enchanter's Munition
XX Golden Fleece
XX Minotaur Hide
XX Mystic Silk
XX Oil of Enchantment
XX Philosopher's Stone
25,000 GP Eldritch Ore Bar
plus ONLY ONE of the following:
    1x Wish Ring
    1x 15,000 GP in Reserve Bars

FAQ Amendments
Can Earcuff of Murmurs be equipped with Charm of Spell Storing or Ring of Spell Storing?
Yes. Do note you cannot use both of them on the same turn as you only have 1 Free Action per turn.

Can a player take their turn on the same turn they were broken out of the Dream condition?
Yes, though in most cases other players will have had to use their action to break them out of it via administering a potion or casting a scroll.

All other feedback has been observed and documented. More changes are likely to be made in response to them, but this is just the easy stuff I can clarify without meeting with Jeff about

I wish there wasn't yet another new Slot coming on board. Put a pause on new Slots please. But if it absolutely must happen please do something other than a Face slot. I just don't like Masks, Masks are a weird item to be "equipping" on a "Face slot" which also seems weird. It's too much of a stretch. Next year will there be an Elbow Slot, or a Kneecap Slot? Getting really corny. Idol Slot, or Pendant Slot, or Talisman Slot, or something else besides Face please.

I feel like the recipe for the Relic is perfectly fine, but the Legendary seems unreasonably expensive in terms of URs, especially since it requires two Relics (or a Relic and 2URs) as a base. I'm hoping the number of TGs is much lower versus other Legendary recipes to compensate for that.

Impy wrote:
Smith's Charm of Unified Synergy
ONE of the following sets:
    SET 1:
        1x Charm of Awakened Synergy
        1x Charm of Coordination
    SET 2:
        1x Charm of Unity
        ONE of the following options:
              1x Charm of Synergy
              2x 2027 URs
2x 2027 URs
(...snip...)

I think this would be clearer without nesting case logic:

ONE of the following sets:
    SET 1:
        1x Charm of Awakened Synergy
        1x Charm of Coordination
    SET 2:
        1x Charm of Unity
        1x Charm of Synergy
    SET 3:
        1x Charm of Unity
        2x 2027 URs
2x 2027 URs
(...snip...)

FAQ Amendments
Can Earcuff of Murmurs be equipped with Charm of Spell Storing or Ring of Spell Storing?
Yes. Do note you cannot use both of them on the same turn as you only have 1 Free Action per turn.

The change to "equipped" is perfect, thank you!

I still don’t understand the logic behind these recipes. Put yourself in the shoes of people like me who weren’t around for the previous CoAS and CoA and CoS. You’re asking me to buy 6 ultra rares along with trade goods to transmute up the chain. Why?

Yeah, the recipe for the legendary charm seems prohibitively expensive for what is essentially combining an old relic with a new UR.