TOPIC: 2027 Treasure Token Notes Round 7 <= Big Overhaul

Endgame wrote: If I follow the "any 4" logic, that means that 4 codexes can be transmuted to make 1 familiar. At the same time, the codexs all grant +2 to an attribute. I feel like that implies we should get 2 - one for the attribute bonus and one to transmute.

I was a bit late to the previous thread, but this is my main concern too. I don't want to have to get 2 of a token that's only distributed once per 8k order.

I would remove the +2 STR/DEX/CON from the Codexes.

Just having the "any 4" option in the recipe means that they will maintain their value well without needing the +2 stats.

I like all of this except 2029 resources are going to suck, wish we could stagger some how or make a few of these not need 1 of every resource.

Grizwald wrote: How are the patron familiar going to be names? Could a smart enough player equip 2 different ones?

I will update the FAQ. I think what you are saying is could someone with a INT:16+ equip two Patron level familiars? The answer is no...but they could do a Patron and a $2K Cat Familiar.

Really not a fan of the Codex's being effectively the same power level of a Dragon Orb the majority of the time AND needing to buy 2x each year to make the familiar. I'd much rather they not have any power and there being the option to do 4x of any vs 1 of each.

I agree with the concerns on the 8k bonus items. Giving them a transmute use without having to have specific ones should be enough time keep their value. Without creating a situation of people needing one just for their builds. Would also consider making it 5 pieces for the the non specific transmute.

Overall I like this plan so much better. However, I echo other's comments that lining up 6 multi-years to transmute in the same year is difficult to manage. In this early part of 2026 it seems people are tripping over each other to pick up limited-time items, while the previous staples like URs are forgotten in the fixed price 8k splits. I would love to see the monster bits, 2K bonus, and UR multi-years extended to 4-5 years.

UR set: I'd offer to switch the banes on the Con and Str masks to make them "Sluggish Health" and "Mad Power", it just seems to fit better to me. If there were another mask it could be like "Famished Study" that gives you Focus in exchange for max HP

2K set: Ashley and I love the cat tokens. We are suckers for our cats and cat related stuff. It's clear they are references to a cat's 9 lives, catlike reflexes, and a cat's claws. I'd rather see entertaining tokens as the 2K appreciation bonus, rather than build staples. This lines up better with previous bonuses like the Pointy Stick and Turkey Leg.

Hi Jeff!

Thanks for all the hard work and all of the changes! I'm really glad the $1K transmute is both the convention entry token and the Arcanum Transmute. There was no chance I was going to transmute the $1K tokens for the next convention when they weren't Arcanum tokens, perhaps I will now that they are the same.

The Arcanum Ioun Stone should be a Grand Arcanum token, so shouldn't have a Relic symbol.

I also like that the UR Multi-Year token is an Arcanum Relic, thanks!

Thanks for making sure that all of the ingredient tokens are nice in their own right. That should help prevent the situation we're having right now where the Path of Enlightenment #4 is tanking in value, or some of the individual $1K tokens like Ring #4 this year are in low demand.

What if the next multi-year transmutes for URs and $1K tokens are also Arcanum tokens, maybe 3-4 years, and the seven part Arcanum set bonus is playing +1 Level, stackable with another +1 Level for 6th Level characters. That would let people play sixth level characters as a result of transmuting seven different multi-year tokens over more than a decade. That would be effective around 2032/2033. The Homunculus would reward the really big token buyers in the shorter term, and this one would reward more mid-level token buyers over a very long time period several years later.

Jeff,
Overall, I would say this draft is looking a lot better. I still have concerns about six multi-year transmutes happening all in the same year. I would recommend a 3-, 4-, and 5-year schedule. The first time you would run into a big conflict with this would be year 12, but plenty of time to work out the issues. There’s a lot to go through for these, so I’ll go through each group.
UR
I like the masks as the next Arcanum piece, but I am also a bit concerned that nobody would want to use other masks after they make this transmute. It would be nice if there was a fourth one that was Focus, but that might be hard to balance. I don’t like the name “Mask of Easy Boon”. How about:
Mask of Unity
Mask of the Pantheon
Mask of Saints
1K
Seems right for its level. If I want to double dip on the effects, I need to use four Ioun Stones. The completed Ioun Stone is good.
2K
This is a nice middle ground on Familiars. The tokens to make the cat are a little underpowered for UR level, but they fit the cat theme. This one really should be 9 tokens to complete. I think for a vast majority of players the tokens will sit in a pile until it’s transmute time.
Chaser
These are a strong upgrade to a set of UR FoP’s, lifting the class restriction. I can see people wanting to make 2 sets to keep a FoP and make a Homunculus. I still think 60 chase tokens and another Relic is going to cause a lot of issues meeting demand. I personally would want to keep a Drake for my builds. I would strongly think about adding another way to get to 6th level after 2030. Maybe something with needing to get several extra +1 level effects.
Monster Bits
My concern with another Monster Bit transmute is if people will get enough bits to make extras into Golden Fleece. I think the Charm is solid, but if it were pushed to 5 years it could add +3 Con.
Patron
I don’t think the individual codices need +2 to a stat. We collected Dragon Orbs for eight years to get +2 to a stat. This is a lot faster. It will cause a lot of people to try and collect 2 sets. One for the stat, one for a doggo buddy. If the codices need to do something, I suggest adding 3-5 hit points or acting as an Omni Cube in a transmute. That way it’s useful but not critical. Personally, I’m going to try for Lord Slobberchops or Judge Hoots.
One final question: Will Familiars get added to tokens at other rarity levels in 2030?

First off—this revision is a clear improvement over the prior version. I especially like the reduction in slotless power creep via slot expansion, but would take that just a bit further by combining the Spirit Pet and Familiar slot.

I do agree with several others that having so many multi-year transmutes all coming due in 2029 risks recreating the trade-good crunch we saw this year.

Given the 2029 TD convention, it feels logical that the Arcanum Ioun Stone and Patron transmute need to completed by then. If the Homunculus recipe is primarily driven by the three Figurines (chasers) and Trade 1s, a concurrent release would be fine. I do think allowing an alternate route to 6th level, e.g. equipping 4+ Arcanum tokens is advisable.

I would, however, take a closer look at the Cat Familiar and Mask of Easy Boon and consider pushing one—or possibly both—to 2030. If 2029 is meant to be a splash year for both familiars and 6th level, the cat’s transmute recipe in particular is worth scrutinizing so it doesn’t become another TG pressure point.

Moving Mask of Easy Boon to 2030 and adding a fourth UR component feels like a pretty easy win, especially since this is an Arcanum token. I’d rather see it transmute in 2030 with a recipe of 4 URs and a bit more juice, and keep a save penalty (e.g., +5 to one stat plus -1 to Saves).

Arcanum Ioun Stone: looks good as printed—no major concerns there.

2K tokens / Cat items: I like the lineup but the 2K ingredients are perhaps a tad underpowered for a 2K UR.

I do think it’s worth seriously considering whether Familiars and Spirit Pets should share a single “Pet” slot, rather than creating parallel systems. Otherwise, we risk widening the gap between high-end and mid-tier builds over time (similar concern raised by Endgame).

Chasers / Homunculus: I’d lean toward keeping just the Figurines as the annual chasers and avoiding a second chaser set in the same year. Otherwise the chase becomes unrealistic unless you’re running each VTD multiple times.

Monster Bits / Void Charm: Following historical Monster Bit patterns seems reasonable, and the Earcuff required 4 years of bits.

Patron tokens: I suggest renaming the Familiar to something like Greater or Improved Familiar for now, and clearly signaling “Legendary/Epic powers TBD”. As the recipe requires three $1k+ Patron tokens (plus TGs), “Epic” feels like the right framing.

Thanks again for our input, as well as the work on the artwork — these look great.

Jeff, is there any chance you could add an "any 5" or even an "any 6" recipe to the Marks of Enlightenment this year? That would really help out Mark #4, which already seems to be reaching a glut situation.

Mike Steele wrote: Jeff, is there any chance you could add an "any 5" or even an "any 6" recipe to the Marks of Enlightenment this year? That would really help out Mark #4, which already seems to be reaching a glut situation.

This is already addressed in the FAQ
Q. Must I have all three years of a 2029 Multi-Year previously-released tokens in order to transmute the 2029 Multi-Year token? For instance, do I need all 3 of the different 2027-2029 Ultra Rares tokens to make the Mask of Easy Boon?
No. While you CAN make the Multi-Year tokens with the 3 different previously released tokens, you
may instead substitute 4 of any of the previously released tokens in the transmuting recipe. Thus, “Any 4” can take the place of “All 3”.

Impy wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: Jeff, is there any chance you could add an "any 5" or even an "any 6" recipe to the Marks of Enlightenment this year? That would really help out Mark #4, which already seems to be reaching a glut situation.

This is already addressed in the FAQ
Q. Must I have all three years of a 2029 Multi-Year previously-released tokens in order to transmute the 2029 Multi-Year token? For instance, do I need all 3 of the different 2027-2029 Ultra Rares tokens to make the Mask of Easy Boon?
No. While you CAN make the Multi-Year tokens with the 3 different previously released tokens, you
may instead substitute 4 of any of the previously released tokens in the transmuting recipe. Thus, “Any 4” can take the place of “All 3”.

I'm referring to the Mark of Enlightenment which can be transmuted this year, not the 2029 transmutes.