TOPIC: Friday 6ish 7 Token Nightmare Challenge

jedibcg wrote: I just realized I am Hodor, I cannot fight but damn if I don't make a decent wall/doorstop/meatshield.

LOL.

And I'm pretty sure I'll have a Redoubt shield to lend as well. Blessed Redoubt shield, if we can transmute for those before this run.

FWIW this was my sons proposed Druid build

Lenses of Divine Sight
Supreme Ring of Elemental Command
Rod of Seven Parts
Kilt of Tavernbane
Charm of Enlightenment
Charm of Avarice
IS Silver Nugget

5th Level 12 AC 53 hp

Portions of this build can be loaned.

So I should ask - do "player" bonuses count? I know a few players here have Cogwind Medallions. Are they allowed?

Ed

jedibcg wrote: I think some of us will get there. Just not all of us.

On that note I am thinking of being 5th Lvl so I have more lay on hands and Sacrifice.

Redoubt Shield
Amulet of Guarding
Byr's Anointed Redoubt Plate
Ring of Protection +4
Ring of Heroism

ISSN
CoA


I just realized I am Hodor, I cannot fight but damn if I don't make a decent wall/doorstop/meatshield.

Rules question.

If one of us dies, could you pick up their weapon and use it?

MasterED wrote: So I should ask - do "player" bonuses count? I know a few players here have Cogwind Medallions. Are they allowed?

Ed

Great question. By the rules I guess so, but it almost feels like cheating. Like someone using an artifact. Yes it would be allowed but not really the same achievement. So doesn't matter to me, but let's see whatever one else thinks. By the same if Jeff allowed the baby beholders to be in play (not that he is) I would not be bring Chuck on this run.

jedibcg wrote:

MasterED wrote: So I should ask - do "player" bonuses count? I know a few players here have Cogwind Medallions. Are they allowed?

Ed

Great question. By the rules I guess so, but it almost feels like cheating. Like someone using an artifact. Yes it would be allowed but not really the same achievement. So doesn't matter to me, but let's see whatever one else thinks. By the same if Jeff allowed the baby beholders to be in play (not that he is) I would not be bring Chuck on this run.

I know how I'd abuse that ruling. I'd carry 7 mushrooms.

Maybe we allow it if the last player standing has no weapon.

Harlax wrote:

jedibcg wrote:

MasterED wrote: So I should ask - do "player" bonuses count? I know a few players here have Cogwind Medallions. Are they allowed?

Ed

Great question. By the rules I guess so, but it almost feels like cheating. Like someone using an artifact. Yes it would be allowed but not really the same achievement. So doesn't matter to me, but let's see whatever one else thinks. By the same if Jeff allowed the baby beholders to be in play (not that he is) I would not be bring Chuck on this run.

I know how I'd abuse that ruling. I'd carry 7 mushrooms.

Maybe we allow it if the last player standing has no weapon.

Hey if you want to carry 5 mushrooms (and 2 TE tokens) and no other tokens I think that would be fair. Now mushrooms can only be used in the room someone dies in. So I don't think that would be abusing it.

I'm not in your group but this is a very interesting thought exercise. If your bard needs some ideas I'd offer this:

I think if it were me playing bard
assuming the first 2 tokens are Avarice and Nugget my last 5 would be:

Briano's
Robe of Blending
Cloak of Shadowskin
Rod of 7 Parts(complete)
Earcuff of Energy

Rod for 5th level Troubadour :also +1hp and odds to even for another bump should get 30hp.
Briano's for song plus spell casting
Robe so you don't get attacked.
Cloak incase you want to get attacked (taunt spell)
Earcuff to stretch your spells out. (refuge)

Round 1 bolster paladin
Round 2 song plus refuge (target ally cannot be attacked, ensure paladin is the target)
Round 3 song plus earcuff

You could do this for 4 combat rooms.

Troubadour would also allow for Song of Support if you really needed it in a pinch but it doesn't work with Briano's so it would stop the above mojo.

If you were having troubles hitting on the end boss you could always do the enhanced bard song or taunt to get take the hit into your cloak. But if that doesn't seem worth it, or if you really plan on running this mojo above then you could drop the shadowskin in favor of a saves cloak.

Okay... thinking out loud, here:

Barbarian (53HP 12AC) = DPS/glass cannon
Bard (need build) = focus on Bardsong/support/ maybe Cloak of Blending to not get hit
Cleric (Lvl 20HP 10AC) = Focus on *healing*, use Cloak of Blending to not get hit
Druid (Lvl 30HP 12AC) = Focus on Ranged Damage (spells) & secondary healer. Pali GUARDs
Fighter (no build yet) = Tank??
Monk (30HP 17AC) = DPS
Paladin (33HP 32AC) = HODOR.
Ranger (24 HP 13AC) = DPS / glass cannon
Rogue (26 HP 27AC) = Ranged combat & Flanking in Melee.
Wizard (41 HP 9AC) = Focus on Ranged DPS. Pali GUARDS.

So we have ~5 classes which can dish out damage in melee (and 2 of them have 2 pucks each)

We have 3 classes which can do ranged combat (Wiz, druid, Rogue) with others bumping pucks as needed.

We've got 6 (7 if Fighter is a tank) who should be OK vs incoming melee attacks and 3 (or 4) who are likely to get hit, and need a lot of healing to stay on their feet.

I have been thinking more and more about using my voucher on this run. It would get me to 5th level same as Ring of Heroism.

I lose sacrafice but gain DR3 while guarding.

Righteous Wrath would be wasted.

MasterED wrote: So I should ask - do "player" bonuses count? I know a few players here have Cogwind Medallions. Are they allowed?

Good question.

I have a +2 HP bonus which technically I can't turn off - it's a part of my build (due to Deck of Many things, years ago.) It doesn't take a token... so technically it's allowed. But it would be on the same level as the Cogwind medallions.


Personally, i'm for allowing non-token bonuses. This is a 7 token challenge, and the other bonuses aren't tokens.

Also, I'd think that if someone dies, you could totally pick up their weapon & use it - as long as the player consented. Successful dungeoneering is about sharing resources.

Raven wrote: Okay... thinking out loud, here:

Barbarian (53HP 12AC) = DPS/glass cannon
Bard (need build) = focus on Bardsong/support/ maybe Cloak of Blending to not get hit
Cleric (Lvl 20HP 10AC) = Focus on *healing*, use Cloak of Blending to not get hit
Druid (Lvl 30HP 12AC) = Focus on Ranged Damage (spells) & secondary healer. Pali GUARDs
Fighter (no build yet) = Tank??
Monk (30HP 17AC) = DPS
Paladin (33HP 32AC) = HODOR.
Ranger (24 HP 13AC) = DPS / glass cannon
Rogue (26 HP 27AC) = Ranged combat & Flanking in Melee.
Wizard (41 HP 9AC) = Focus on Ranged DPS. Pali GUARDS.

So we have ~5 classes which can dish out damage in melee (and 2 of them have 2 pucks each)

We have 3 classes which can do ranged combat (Wiz, druid, Rogue) with others bumping pucks as needed.

We've got 6 (7 if Fighter is a tank) who should be OK vs incoming melee attacks and 3 (or 4) who are likely to get hit, and need a lot of healing to stay on their feet.

If Fighter is going tank should she Dwarf Fighter so she can Taunt? Or She could be another DPS/Glass Cannon.

If the Druid is only as support for Range I think they could go with blending and not be guarded unless it is a range room and then I guard them because they are on offense. So guard Barbarian and Wizard in Melee and Wizard and Druid in Range?