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TOPIC: Wheel of Time series

Wheel of Time series 2 years 4 months ago #13

I'm going to be curious how they handle the more imaginative parts of the books. Right now they're still very much in generic fantasy mode. I liked the trollocs though, they looked great for the most part.

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Wheel of Time series 2 years 4 months ago #14

Well, I wasn't blown away by the series so far, but it is still pretty decent thus far. Episodes 2/3 are definitely better than episode 1.
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Wheel of Time series 2 years 4 months ago #15

Finally got around to watching episode 1 last night. It's been 25 years since I read book 1, but here are the things that I didn't remember:
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Wheel of Time series 2 years 4 months ago #16

Chad wrote: Finally got around to watching episode 1 last night. It's been 25 years since I read book 1, but here are the things that I didn't remember:

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We should probably just make a spoilers thread for discussion so we don't have to constantly block things... But for now...

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Wheel of Time series 1 year 11 months ago #17

Started watching because a friend of mine wanted to.

*Inspired* by the books. Even small things changed for unclear reasons with massive changes in characters.

I'm not sure how anyone who hasn't read the books is tracking what's going on big picturewise. Guess can look at the pretty scenery and special effects.

I can summarize my assessment with: lots of annoying book stuff got cut, everything that's actually cool in the books also got cut.

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Wheel of Time series 1 year 11 months ago #18

I wanted to gouge my eyes out after a couple episodes in. My wife got sick of me yelling at the TV, so I was forced to watch in a different room. I'm sure Robert Jordan did a few somersaults in his grave.
I would be curious to hear from those who have never read the books, though. I would think the plot seemed rushed.

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Wheel of Time series 1 year 11 months ago #19

Haven't read the books (still on my list for some day). I did watch the series. On one hand I enjoyed it, but afterwards I found it pretty forgetable. I think I was following the overall storyline, but then I probably missed stuff as well. Overall, I guess I found it okay to good, but not something that made me want to rush out and read the books.

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Wheel of Time series 1 year 11 months ago #20

As a book reader I didn't mind most of the changes and expected it would be different coming in. I didn't like how much they rushed the ending episode or how they handled the battle in that episode. I think they could have done better with the time they had and could have stopped sooner in the story to make it feel more satisfying.

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Wheel of Time series 1 year 11 months ago #21

Dave wrote: Haven't read the books (still on my list for some day). I did watch the series. On one hand I enjoyed it, but afterwards I found it pretty forgetable. I think I was following the overall storyline, but then I probably missed stuff as well. Overall, I guess I found it okay to good, but not something that made me want to rush out and read the books.


Just want to add that I did not watch it as it was released. I waited until the entire series was available and binged it within a couple of days. That probably helped me follow the storyline.

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Wheel of Time series 1 year 11 months ago #22

My wife and I watched it after both failing to get through the first book. It was... fine? Seemed somewhat generic high fantasy. Chosen ones, temptation of the evil one and all that. Spoilers and all:

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Overall, the show just seemed very generic. Which is a shame, because I know that Amazon can put out good material when they set their minds to it (see: Invincible). And this wasn't outright terrible. It just wasn't very compelling.

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Wheel of Time series 1 year 11 months ago #23

Belaboring some, but this comes to mind.

The show probably seems generic because it's so disjointed. Stuff does basically just happen that had vastly more context in the books (well, to the extent show and books have same events).

I get why. I've seen 5 episodes and there are important things in book one that haven't been touched yet because the books are so overstuffed. They have to move events along vastly faster than the books, and I can see places where they changed things probably to substitute for mounds of exposition to describe stuff before and during when the characters engage with it.

Structurally, they have to somehow make move 900+ page books in a 14 book series to get to some sort of resolution as they don't have 400 episodes guaranteed to tell the book series' story, removing massive amounts of depth. At the same time, to make people care at all about what's going on, there are scenes that try to do some character development that feel forced (to me, anyway). (Ironic that the character dev in the books is largely missing.)

I could see liking something better that had narration, but a lot of people seem to hate narration. Actually, there are probably similar problems between this and the recent Dune movie due to trying to avoid certain storytelling techniques while giving fans lots of details. (They also seem to spend a lot of time making things look pretty, when I don't care about visual effects.)

Also, book one isn't the best book. When I read it the first time, it felt like some taking Lord of the Rings and other stuff. It has references that don't pay off forever. The ending felt rushed and weird to me on first reading - I reread the book recently and it wasn't nearly as weird to me, but, then, I understood references far more and understood what was actually going on, given that the first three books tell a fuller story.

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Wheel of Time series 1 year 11 months ago #24

I will say Rosamund Pike and Daniel Henney do their damn best to bring some life into Moiraine and Lan. I'd totally watch a show about the two of them wandering around solving mysteries.

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