Clarifying Retribution Damage

Clarifying Retribution Damage 10 years 11 months ago #1

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Resulting from a discussion with Jeff, the definition of Retribution Damage has been better defined. Functionally, Retribution Damage will be the same, but we think this more clearly illustrates what it is, when it occurs, and when it does not come into play.

Retribution Damage (RD): When an item or spell with RD is equipped/active, any time the wearer takes damage from a melee attack, the RD will be inflicted upon the attacker. Neither ranged nor spell attacks will trigger RD. If the attack would have caused damage but is negated (e.g., Cloak of Shadowskin ) or the damage is reduced to zero (e.g., melee damage reduction ), it will not trigger RD.

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Re: Clarifying Retribution Damage 10 years 11 months ago #2

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 Offline 10^th Level Supporter Posts: 10178	thanks for the update
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Re: Clarifying Retribution Damage 10 years 11 months ago #3

jedibcg Offline 11^th Level Supporter What is personal text? Posts: 10763	Makes sense. No damage no trigger of retribution damage. You either discover a star or you don't. You arrogant punk.
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Re: Clarifying Retribution Damage 10 years 11 months ago #4

darkangel866 Offline 8^th Level tokenaholic since 2007 Posts: 2741	Does it work thw same way for monsters? The Worst Rogue Ever! Member of the Michigan Marauders Ranger Extra-ordinary --Rocky BEWARE THERE ARE SILVER BULETTES NEARBY!
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Re: Clarifying Retribution Damage 10 years 11 months ago #5

Druegar Topic Author Offline 9^th Level Supporter Semper Inutilia Posts: 10690	Yes Live long and prosper
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Re: Clarifying Retribution Damage 10 years 11 months ago #6

Mike Steele Offline 10^th Level Supporter Posts: 20524	Druegar, is the RD always caused by an item or a spell? Don't some monsters have built-in RD? The description sounds like the only sources of RD are items and spells. Click Here for the Best and Oldest Token Shop in Existence! Click Here to see the wooden tokens I'm looking for and the ones I have for trade or sale. Click here to comment on the Token Database, the best resource on tokens.
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Re: Clarifying Retribution Damage 10 years 11 months ago #7

Druegar Topic Author Offline 9^th Level Supporter Semper Inutilia Posts: 10690	I can't think of a situation when a monster has had RD without the aid of magic or an item. But even if you can reference one, the source of the RD is moot; the mechanics are the same. The description was written from the player's perspective--just like the Magical Damage Resolution section of the DMG--to make it more relatable. Live long and prosper
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Re: Clarifying Retribution Damage 10 years 11 months ago #8

Brad Mortensen Offline 9^th Level Supporter Posts: 6401	Druegar wrote: I can't think of a situation when a monster has had RD without the aid of magic or an item. The electric eel? "Ceci n'est pas une pipe" - Magritte
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Re: Clarifying Retribution Damage 10 years 11 months ago #9

Druegar Topic Author Offline 9^th Level Supporter Semper Inutilia Posts: 10690	Okay, but that doesn't change anything. Live long and prosper
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Re: Clarifying Retribution Damage 10 years 11 months ago #10

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Would this version be more satisfactory?

Retribution Damage: When a melee attack deals damage to a target possessing Retribution Damage (RD), the attacker loses Hit Points equal to the target's total RD. Neither ranged nor spell attacks will trigger RD. If an attack would have caused damage but is completely negated (e.g., Cloak of Shadowskin) or the attack's damage is reduced to zero (e.g., melee damage reduction), RD will not be triggered. Multiple sources of RD stack, unless specifically stated otherwise.

Retribution Damage often originates from an item or spell, but it can come from other sources as well.

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Re: Clarifying Retribution Damage 10 years 11 months ago #11

darkangel866 Offline 8^th Level tokenaholic since 2007 Posts: 2741	Change "loses hit points" to "takes damage" unless the intent is it cannot be reduced by SRoEC or Barbarian Damage Reduction or Medallion of Greyhawk etc. The Worst Rogue Ever! Member of the Michigan Marauders Ranger Extra-ordinary --Rocky BEWARE THERE ARE SILVER BULETTES NEARBY!
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Re: Clarifying Retribution Damage 10 years 11 months ago #12

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Better?

Retribution Damage: When a melee attack deals damage to a target possessing Retribution Damage (RD), the attacker takes damage equal to the target's total RD. Neither ranged nor spell attacks will trigger RD. If an attack would have caused damage but is completely negated (e.g., Cloak of Shadowskin) or the attack's damage is reduced to zero (e.g., melee damage reduction), RD will not be triggered. Multiple sources of RD stack, unless specifically stated otherwise.

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Last edit: by Druegar. Reason: removed unnecessary addendum

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