TOPIC: The Medallion of Greyhawk= a purp, a rare, a uncommon & 2 commons!!!

<br /><br />Medallion of Grayhawk= Ioun Stone - Lavender Ellipsoid, Scroll - Slow Poison , Scroll - Stone to Flesh x1, Potion cure minor x2<br /><br /><br />Why would you ever wear a MoG if you have these items? I don't think the MoG was made for newbie’s. I think it was targeted at people who have been playing for 3+ years and ill guess most of those people have the 5 equivalent items. Why make a 4c item that doesn’t force people to make that hard neck slot choice from year to year. Even wearing an Amulet of Armor or Thorns would be a better choice then the MoG. I think the MoG is under powered for its target audience and for item that sits at the end of a 3 year story arc. I hope TD considers changing it.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />

I think it is a better item than you do - although I'm pretty notorious for not wanting to use consumables, so I like items that give you permanent benefit rather than having to use consumables every dungeon run to get the same effect.<br /><br />But, I do agree that I was also hoping for an item as the 4C token that I would use, and I'm sure I'll use the Horn of Plenty over this.  Since I already have an Ioun Stone Lavendar Ellipsoid, this medallion would take 3rd place behind the HoP and Amulet of Wonder.  I completely understand why Jeff & Dave would want to make another Neck Slot item that could compete with the Horn of Plenty, but (selfishly) I wish the 4C item were something that was in a different slot so I'd use it.  I plan on getting several for my collection, but I doubt they'll be used.  <br /><br />If I didn't have a Horn of Plenty, I would consider using it, and I'm sure there are a lot of people that don't have Horns that would use it. 

Well not that I disagree - but the burners you mention are now given to the player as a PERMANENT power by the MoG.

I really liked the medallion.  Since I don't have a Horn of Plenty, its only competition for me is the Amulet of Wonder, which if I don't like the effect for that year I'll definitely be hooking it up.  <br /><br />Now that the alternate recipes are gone, you really do have to be a person that played the last three years.  Or find someone willing to trade old ingredients.  Although I think getting the ingredients is extremely easier than trying to get a purp.

I think the medallion is great insurance for bards and other spell casters really.  On a fluke touch or gaze a party could lose the only person or two people who could cast a spell or use a scroll to turn other party members from tragic consequence.  I like the bard because of the versatility, but if the bard and mage look at the medusa nobody can cast stone to flesh to help them.  Same with slow poison with the cleric and bard.<br /><br />I have no problem using the Medallion and letting my wife use the Levandar ellipsoid and the HOP.  And if the AoW power on a given year is of more use than the Medallion--so be it.<br /><br />And if things turned out like my first TD run when I was the only one to make it to the last room (which I could see happen in Nightmare), and if I get turned to stone it would be very difficult for me to cast the spell.  At that point it might be very comforting to have that little medallion hanging around my neck.<br /><br />Widseth

<br />I think the medallion is great insurance for bards and other spell casters really.  On a fluke touch or gaze a party could lose the only person or two people who could cast a spell or use a scroll to turn other party members from tragic consequence.  I like the bard because of the versatility, but if the bard and mage look at the medusa nobody can cast stone to flesh to help them.  Same with slow poison with the cleric and bard.<br />

<br /><br />Oooh good point!

<br /><br /><br />Medallion of Grayhawk= Ioun Stone - Lavender Ellipsoid, Scroll - Slow Poison , Scroll - Stone to Flesh x1, Potion cure minor x2<br />

<br /><br /><br />The Ioun Stone has a slight advantage because it doesn't take up a valuable slot.<br /><br />The Medallion is better than Slow Poison or Stone to Flesh because it is effectively an unlimited supply (though only for yourself). In addition, it is pre-emptive (if you got poisoned or stoned, someone needs to waste precious time using a scroll).<br /><br />Also, remember that there are class restrictions for the scrolls. Only Cleric/Druid for Slow Poison and only Bard/Wizard for Stone to Flesh. I have seen parties go without any Arcane spell access. Or if the Cleric/Druid are already dead or immobilized, you're gonna really wish you had used that Medallion. Finally, every now and then you will have a dysfunctional party. Kinda sucks when another player won't use a scroll on your behalf - even if you're willing to provide the consumable!<br /><br />Finally, the +2 HP is better than just 2 cure potions because it raises your maximum ceiling. Makes it less likely you will get killed in a single attack where cure potions wouldn't help (case in point: Wizard vs. the drider fireball).<br /><br />The 4C Medallion definitely puts the poor 3C Periapt to shame (the Periapt will see even less use than it ever did). Still not quite sure whether the 4C Medallion is worthy of honorary Purple status. I do wish it was a bit more useful (like most of the other posters), but I also think that people shouldn't dismiss it too quickly.

<br />Well not that I disagree - but the burners you mention are now given to the player as a PERMANENT power by the MoG.<br />

<br /><br />That's the point I was trying to make - perhaps not too clearly - that it is a big bonus for the MoG that it gives all these bonuses permanently instead of having to use burners to get them.  That keeps you from having to go through a bunch of the burners, and also keeps you from having to take the multiple turns to activate the burners.  Plus, I think that +2 HP is better than just two points of healing, because it gives you a higher HP total which (especially in Nightmare I'm thinking) can keep you alive when taking a single big hit.  <br /><br />I think that the MoG is a VERY nice item, far better than any combo in previous years (the Bracelets this year give it a run for it's money).  It's not as good as the Horn of Plenty - but then NOTHING is as good as the Horn of Plenty.  <br /><br />Widseth also makes an EXCELLENT point!  We had our Bard and Wizard turned to stone in the Medusa room, and then had nobody to cast stone to flesh scrolls.  If one of them had this item on, that could not have happened.  

Oh and of course we've all forgotten about the BEST benefit to the Medallion:<br /><br />You are free to ogle at scantily-clad medusae with absolute impunity! Considering the number of players last year who risked stoneage to sneak a peek, I think this benefit might be the biggest draw for using the Medallion!!!  :O

You are free to ogle at scantily-clad medusae with absolute impunity! Considering the number of players last year who risked stoneage to sneak a peek, I think this benefit might be the biggest draw for using the Medallion!!! 

<br /><br />   And you looked so innocent. =D

<br />I think the medallion is great insurance for bards and other spell casters really.  On a fluke touch or gaze a party could lose the only person or two people who could cast a spell or use a scroll to turn other party members from tragic consequence.  I like the bard because of the versatility, but if the bard and mage look at the medusa nobody can cast stone to flesh to help them.  Same with slow poison with the cleric and bard.<br /><br />I have no problem using the Medallion and letting my wife use the Levandar ellipsoid and the HOP.  And if the AoW power on a given year is of more use than the Medallion--so be it.<br /><br />And if things turned out like my first TD run when I was the only one to make it to the last room (which I could see happen in Nightmare), and if I get turned to stone it would be very difficult for me to cast the spell.  At that point it might be very comforting to have that little medallion hanging around my neck.<br /><br />Widseth<br />

<br /><br />This is why Widseth is a master bard - great point!  I would probably want the Medallion on the bard b/c he can cast both arcane and divine scrolls.<br />

I understand were people are coming from in the case of the bruners and being short on spellcasters, but i dont think MoG is better than the 3c Bracelets. I'm also annoyed that it bascially nullifies the purp Ioun stone if you wear it. I just think more thought (or power) should of been put into it and an cost analysis compare to other tokens would'nt hurt.