TOPIC: Latest Saint Power Discussion

More great feedback! Thank you all for helping get this done quickly. We start building stuff for Ring Con tomorrow!

I was hesitant to NOT make the Saint Power choice permanent given everyone is getting an unique glpyh on their token. However, perhaps we can now say that the Mark of Enlightenment marks you as someone who has a direct connection to the Ten Saints (and their realm) so you can decide at the start of each adventure who you wish to beseech for aid. Thus, we can allow players to pick their Saint each adventure. Maybe we say you must sacrifice 1,000 GP to a fellow non-Saint player to activate it each game? Seems like a nice little sacrifice is in order.

The question is what to put on the token. It could all have standard langue saying something like:
"May chose 1 Saint Power at start" along with "see tokendb.com" text

Thoughts?

Powers of the Ten Saints

St. Bullo
+2 to hit with Melee attacks
1/Game: Add +10 damage to total on one Melee attack (Does not get multiplied by crit)

St. Fleck
+2 to hit with Ranged attacks
1/Game: Add +15 damage to total to a Ranged attack on natural 20 (Does not get multiplied by crit)

St. Fokee
+3 to Spell damage
1/Game: May reroll failed Will save

St. Gubb
Does not turn in Eldritch Runestone used in Coaching
1/Game: When you die another ally comes back to life with 1HP

St. Hopp
+3 to Melee damage
1/Game: May reroll failed Fort save

St. Lorca
Automatically pass all your skill checks
1/Game: Cast a spell w/out marking box off class card

St. Raya
+3 to Healing Spells
1/Game: May cast a healing spell as an Instant Action

St. Stern
+5 to Retribution Damage
1/Game: May survive lethal Melee damage with hp set to "1" (Not including Instant death effects)

St. Valla
+2 to Saves
1/Game: May heal yourself 20 HP

St. Wilton
May equip 1 additional Head Slot item i]Yes, it stacks with any other Head slot expander[/i

St. Sola
Not a member of the Ten Saints

I can’t say I’m in favor of having to spend gold repeatedly to use a token at all.

EDIT: Also, in a group with multiple Marks, this could easily turn into an even trade off for an even number of people. In a group with an odd number, somebody would be out.. What about runs with ten Mark holders? We know which groups, haha.

Personally, I’d like to pick a power and stick to it, but I could see paying 1k gold to beseech a saint not on my token.

Can we have a permanent power for free with option to pay 1000GP to change it. With as many runs as I do, it's not economical for me to pay Gold just to equip a token. Even at 50gp I'd be hesitant.

I'm not in favor of spending gold to turn on my token. If that is something that a player wants, why not make St. Witon the pay gold to get one of the other 9 powers?

Dave wrote: Can we have a permanent power for free with option to pay 1000GP to change it. With as many runs as I do, it's not economical for me to pay Gold just to equip a token. Even at 50gp I'd be hesitant.

Agreed and considering its on the honor system anyway this seems more reasonable. Otherwise, people would just say they were giving 1k to a person in their quartermaster'd group without a Mark equipped anyway. At least with it being a cost each time you want to change, its more likely people will give it to newer players or people who would benefit from it.

Dave wrote: Can we have a permanent power for free with option to pay 1000GP to change it. With as many runs as I do, it's not economical for me to pay Gold just to equip a token. Even at 50gp I'd be hesitant.

I like this idea more.

I think this is a great idea, along the same lines of what Wade said, it would be cool to pick a power that is useful for whatever class I end up with each time, and gives us flexibility as other new tokens are created that this never becomes obsolete. I also agree that 1K a run would break the bank especially as we are trying to get ready for Mythic. Based on the small subset of Paragon tokens out there I think this would be really cool without some sort of sacrifice. If there must be one then I agree with Dave's idea of only paying some small amount to change from a default.

Phil

+1 to permanent at initial selection with 1K donation for temporary saint connection switch (1/Game)

Grizwald wrote: I'm not in favor of spending gold to turn on my token. If that is something that a player wants, why not make St. Witon the pay gold to get one of the other 9 powers?

That’s a good idea.

Utaku wrote: +1 to permanent at initial selection with 1K donation for temporary saint connection switch (1/Game)

Have to dwell on this, but my initial reaction is that I like it.

Good ideas here, how about something like this?

Saint you choose upon crafting: Free
Change your Saint temporarily for 1 game: 500 GP
Change your Saint permanently (until you choose to change again): 1,000 GP
Change back to your original Saint: Free