TOPIC: 2027 Treasure Token Notes Round 4 <= BIG UPDATE on Multi-Year Transmutes

I have added a section to the Notes (and FAQ) that attempts to explain all the 2027-2029 multi-year Transmute tokens. I thought it would be best to show the final tokens that can be made in 2029 so folks know ahead of time what they are getting. There is some fun stuff headed your way.

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Of course, to actually decide on these details we had to commit to another fan-only special event. So, we will see in you 2029 at "True Dungeon Con 2029". We decided to go with a static name from now on -- where we just change the year.

It will probably happen in Marion, Illinois again. We will see how it goes there this year. See you there!

truedungeon.com/files/2027_Token_Notesv8.pdf

Note: We will not decide this until AFTER Ring Con, but it is most likely that all attendees at True Dungeon Con 2029 will be required to craft an Ioun Stone of Fearsome Foes -- the $1K multi-year token.

Very cool to show the whole transmute line. We know it takes a lot of work to get it ready up front.

My first question is, are Hagstones and Familiars new slots? Will they start at a cap of 1 per character?

Are we certain we want everything ending at the same time like it did this year? That made several trade goods spike up massively as everyone rushed to make their rings and new tokens for this upcoming season.

I'm also not sold on the bead upgrade for the multi year, since you have items that enhance combat capabilities, and when you transmute them, you are protected if you don't enter combat? That seems counter intuitive, if you ask me.

Will the Yearly Chaser Grimoire transmutes themselves do anything? That is, before they get transmuted into a more powerful transmute?

Personally I would like to see the Grimoires do something even if they can’t be played with the thing they create. That way the orphan ones aren’t worthless.

That said I love the overall plan. I am not excited about the bead of blending but I know not all tokens are created for me and I know some people will love it.

I think these are all awesome! I like to see this all laid out, really helps with planning/budgeting.

I agree that having these all come due in 2029 could put some TG's into the crazy expensive realm again. Would it be best to stagger some or all of these?

Hagstones seem to be slotless, from what I can tell.

Also wonder if it's worth it to stagger the hagstones and ioun stone bonuses a bit, otherwise, ranged builds get both of them before melee and spellcasting builds get theirs.

Ben Krupa wrote: Are we certain we want everything ending at the same time like it did this year? That made several trade goods spike up massively as everyone rushed to make their rings and new tokens for this upcoming season.

This! Maybe you could push the con out to 2030? Then you could start all transmute lines in 2027, but have some lines end in 2029 and some in 2030. You could even do the con in 2031 and make 5, 4, and 3 year objects that start at the same time, but are offset from each other.

If you don't want to go this route, please consider staggering the TGs in the recipes so that people aren't scrambling to get their hands on particular TGs (like the OE and EB shortage this year).

How many families can a player have?

And you pulled the rug out from under the last 8k transmute and weakened it so badly it isn't even remotely worth going after.. How can we trust you won't do that again after we've invested thousands of dollars?

Thanks, Jeff!

Were the 2028 and 2029 Hag Stones supposed to be slotless, since the first and the transmute are?

Should the Bead of Blending be an Arcanum Token? That would be consistent with recent UR Multi-Year tokens.

Should the Ioun Stone of Fearsome Foes be an Arcanum token? The three $1K premium tokens look like they have Arcanum recipe token color to them.

The Familiar token is super powered, are you sure you want to allow a 6th Level, and have two level differences between player characters?

Are you only requiring the one monster ingredient token for 2027 (Voidling Tentacle) for the Void Charm instead of all eight?

Will the Codex's have any power other than being part of the Familiar Cat recipe? If not, could there be a lesser transmute also requiring any three Codex's? I'd like to prevent another situation where the final year has the demand really drop off once everyone has what they need (assuming token purchase quantities keep going up).

Is Familiar Cat soulbound?

Finally, That is a lot of transmuting in three years, even if not all of them require trade item tokens. Is that risking a situation like this year where Oil of Enchantment and Elven Bismuth are extremely scarce and prices are skyrocketing way past UR level costs?

Thanks!!
Mike

In addition to the concerns about multiple multiyears and the price of trade goods, how does another Monster Part recipe fare for the price of Golden Fleece down the road, which will presumably also be an ingredient in the multi year recipes?