TOPIC: 2014 Quick Token Reference BETA < Feedback Needed

Very minor thing. Masterwork Shuriken does have number of hands listed as 1. All other shuriken are listed a 1.

Io’s +4 Ultra Keen Slayer Bow is also missing is also its stats under the weapon list chart.

Should Fire Bird be NR (non-magical ranged)? It is an alchemical weapon according the the token db.

Flaming Blunder slug is missing BL (since it is a slug) and FR since it does Fire.

Some Orbs are lists as NR and some are not. I believe they all are alchemy based weapons and should be NR correct? (Not counting Orb of Might).

Sacred Hand Grenade is not listed as NR, but it is referenced in the notes as non-magical.

Silver Bastard Sword is listed as BL.

Most short swords are listed as piercing only. Both silver short swords are listed as piercing and slashing.

I think that is all I have for awhile.

Okay, here is the most up to date version of the Quick Token Reference.

What was changed:

> Reworked footnotes for Eldritch Set items

>Weapon List Changes:
Added Alchemist Fire
Flagged Fire Bird as Non-magical Ranged
Flagged Flaming Blunder Slug as having Blunt damage in addition to Fire Added stats to Io's Ultra Keen Slayer Bow Added handedness to Masterwork Shuriken Flagged Orb of Lightning as being Non-magical Ranged Flagged Sacred Hand Grenade as being Non-magical Ranged and dealing Sacred damage Changed Silver Bastard Sword's damage type to Slashing Removed Slashing damage designation from Silver Short Sword and +1 Silver Short Sword (and it the TDb as well)

It is the same link as before.


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The full rod should be in there before it goes to print

Jeff Martin wrote: Okay, here is the most up to date version of the Quick Token Reference.

What was changed:

> Reworked footnotes for Eldritch Set items

>Weapon List Changes:
Added Alchemist Fire
Flagged Fire Bird as Non-magical Ranged
Flagged Flaming Blunder Slug as having Blunt damage in addition to Fire Added stats to Io's Ultra Keen Slayer Bow Added handedness to Masterwork Shuriken Flagged Orb of Lightning as being Non-magical Ranged Flagged Sacred Hand Grenade as being Non-magical Ranged and dealing Sacred damage Changed Silver Bastard Sword's damage type to Slashing Removed Slashing damage designation from Silver Short Sword and +1 Silver Short Sword (and it the TDb as well)

It is the same link as before.


CLICK HERE FOR 2014 QTR

Final chance to give us your feedback! We need to go to print soon. Thank you.

Hi Jeff,

My big comment / requested change: (I missed it on the first review), I'm really not happy with the change in the 2 Item Eldritch Set Bonus from "All spells get +10 Healing" to "1st level and up spells get +10 Healing". That is a huge reduction in power for healers. The Cleric loses 40% of the bonus healing, and the Druid loses a whopping 57% of the bonus healing (going from 7 instances to only three).

People made purchasing decisions based on your original description which are pretty significant (4 Ultra-Rares for the Ring, 7 Ultra-Rares for the Rod), and the new wording drastically slashes the power of the items. And +10 healing to all spells isn't overpowered considering it is taking 11 Ultra Rares and a significant amount of Trade Item Tokens to get the bonus. For the Druid, the total bonus now is only equal to three of the new Transmuted healing potions, or barely more than the single Ultra-Rare Figurine of Power: Phoenix. That isn't significant enough for a set consisting of 11 Ultra-Rares.

So, I'd request that you change the wording back to the original wording of +10 healing to all healing spells, instead of just 1st level and up.

A couple of more minor comments:

It would still be nice to have a Table of Contents, especially for those that print this out.

Perhaps do Elemental Eldritch Set in Green Font instead of Black?

Or perhaps as a middle-ground, have the set bonus give +10 to all healing spells, but change the 0 level spells to +2 healing per spell and knock a couple of them off. That would have the added bonus of replacing them with a couple of different 0 level spells.

+10 healing for all spells is pretty damn overpowered, irregardless of what it took to make them. I much prefer this affecting Level 1 spells and above.

Can the gloves of the flying fists be used to avoid retribution damage?

If I'm reading this correctly, Lenses of Divine sight are applied before rings and other items.

So if the cleric casts cure light wounds and wears a ring of focus, the bonus +1 healing only goes to 1 of the 2 targets correct?

Its a bit tricky to figure out what an "applicable bonus" is refering to on the lenses as all the booster items now state applies only to 1 target if has multiple targets.

Or is it the other way around and the lenses applies post bonus?

The Lyre of Lore description is wrong, it says "(+2 To Hit & +3 Damage if the bard is 5th-level)"

Should read +4
to be consistant with the chart.

This is the current (beta) wording for Lenses of Divine Sight:

when a single-target healing spell is cast from the character card (not from a scroll or item), the caster may target two distinct individuals (not the same target twice), each of which will receive the full benefit of the spell—including all applicable bonuses; it's only usable once per round, but other than that it may be used as often as desired; requires at least 20 Wisdom to equip

Note: These lenses have no effect on multi-target healing spells

The key phrase (relating to valetutto's query) is "each of which will receive the full benefit of the spell—including all applicable bonuses". I.e., if you are wearing Lenses of Divine Sight, total all the bonuses you get from all your items, then apply that healing spell WITH all the bonuses to a second target.

Would this version clear up the confusion?

Lenses of Divine Sight: when a single-target healing spell is cast from the character card (not from a scroll or item), the caster may target two distinct individuals (not the same target twice), each of which will receive the full benefit of the spell—including all the bonuses that were applied to the initial target; it’s only usable once per round, but other than that it may be used as often as desired; requires at least 20 Wisdom to equip

Note: These lenses have no effect on multi-target healing spells

That would add clarity yes.

The remaining issue is the various rings and stuff that say"...If a spell under the influence of a RING OF FOCUS can affect more than one target,..."

So we might want to add a line to the Lese that says "does not count as affecting more than one target" or something.

See my confusion there? or am i just reading it weird.