TOPIC: Should Ring of Spell Storing be nerfed?

Leitz wrote: Maybe for next year's token design process we can start to set up some framework to operate in and agree on it before the tokens are revealed.

Agreed. I have some suggestions, but not the time to write them up at the moment.

Acherin wrote:

Leitz wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

Leitz wrote:

Ian Lee wrote: I see the real nerfing in the game needing to be the screaming for "my class needs to not be 5th in the max damage rankings" as that's what has increasingly broken the game. But, it's been working so far, so maybe the best nerfing is just ignoring the damage output discrepancies and playing the game the way the game makes things fun for you.

Ultimately, as a coop game, the game is really more of a social/discovery endeavor than anything else, even if some players care more about winning than anything else, whatever winning means to them.

This is the correct level of analysis.

If you were to go back to the 2021 token design threads, you'll see nothing but people complaining about how wizard doesn't do enough damage. The end result was an increase of damage output to wizard classes. Now it's omg wizard too much damage! Fighter sucks now!

This game doesn't live in the right now forever. It's fluid and always evolving. We have the tokens for 2021. It's time to adapt builds and be ready for the 2021 season. Once we get a bunch of runs with new 2021 builds, I'm sure TPTB will make the appropriate changes.

Not all of us were complaining that the Wizards didn't do enough damage, but I'm sure that was the majority of inputs that Jeff got. It's still probably the majority of inputs Jeff gets even after this.

Yeah, totally. During the design process wizard players and sympathizers were really vocal about wizard needing major power boost. Opposite opinions weren't represented as loudly.

Now that the vocal wizard players mostly got their way we have the counter threads.

I don't see much guidance of what classes should be where in terms of damage and other abilities. So the token design process felt like a free for all with every player trying to get the most value for their favorite character.

Maybe for next year's token design process we can start to set up some framework to operate in and agree on it before the tokens are revealed.

So what I am hearing is the druid legendary needs a rework

Lol!

Miathan wrote: With the future token dev not having class relics I would think the heated argument won’t be as bad but I may be wrong.

Gotta give a solid NO to this.

The future will have some amazing class relics that we will enjoy a discourse over. We know some features like familiars for wizards are in the work. We also know that there is likely a Druid, Paladin, and Ranger specific that is in development?

Per the original post, the ring of spell storing is a good UR that should be considered for reprint in the coming years.

Probably the thing to remember most is that we are all people on the other side of the forum post. Ultimately this is a game, one I prefer to play by the rules available, to the detriment of my own success, for the fun of the story. Everyone should have fun with their game, just try to remember that their game and your game need rules we agree to at its core.