TOPIC: Feedback Needed on Relic/Legend Event Idea

We have been kicking around this idea at TD HQ since the Spring, and I need your thoughts on this idea.

I have been trying to think of a way to increase the "value" of the Relics and Legendaries, and I am thinking of adding a new component to TD next year. How does this sound?

For the month of September, we add a new transmuted Relic to the available tokens on the transmuted page. It would be a "Cubic Gate" (slotless) Relic-level token that would be soul-forged to the transmuter's real name much like the Artifact were done. So, your real name would appear at the bottom of the token. We would mail these tokens out in January when they arrive from the factory.

This new relic would allow your character to travel to a far-off demi-plane of existence and experience a new type of TD event. This event would take place inside either inside the True Grind space while not in use, or in a completely new area. The event would be a 4-room mini-adventure that would include two new combats and two puzzles from the olden days (slightly modified). The event would have a different completion token and SURVIVOR button...plus a cool completion pin (like the 8th level pins).

The catch is that since this demi-plane is so far removed from the Prime Material Plane, not a lot of magic items work there -- nor make the far journey. Only Relics, Legendaries and Eldritch items will make the trip. All other items vanish as the character passes through the endless ether. Sorry, we can't really allow Artifacts in the event as they would break its flavor.

We would add more Relics and Legendaries in 2014 than normal -- like a +3 sword, +3 1-handed club, +3 Plate and a +3 Bow so that basic equipment would be available. 2015 would see some light armor, shield and more weapons. Previous Relics and Legendaries would also come in very handy, too!

We would set the formulas for these new 2014 Relics and Legendaries so that you can trade in any other pre-2014 Relic or Legendary for a 2014 if you wish.

The event listing would say that you must be a member of the "Circle of Far Travelers" to buy a ticket, and you can only play ONCE per year. You would show your Cubic Gate token when starting the event, and your name would be recorded to ensure compliance. We would have to make the event details such that one person could only buy one ticket (unlike 10 now).

I think this might be a fun way to bring good value to the Relics and Legendaries while rewarding token collectors with something cool for their support. It would give collectors a chance to play an unique TD event with only their most powerful items -- which might be a fun change of pace.

Every year we would open up the Cubic Gate transmuting in September so that more collectors can join the Circle of Far Travelers.

The catch is that I would only have about 10 days to get this thing launched -- so that collectors would have 30 days to figure out what they want...or if they want to pass.

What do you all think of this idea? Thanks for your feedback!

My first question is what about those that equip a party of 10? What if I have the resources to make more than 1? Would they all be soulforged to me? Do I choose whom they get soulforged to? Since I also buy all tickets for my group (often without any reimbursement) would I be able to buy these special slots for them?

I think the idea is awesome I just would like to know some more details.

I dont have a ton of time to construct a formal response, so I shal instead summarize my response with two words:

Yes, Please.

Not sure about the soul forge unless we can share the items with the group we are in. If so, then it's a good idea, something like...

"Soulforged to Ed Arneson and anyone in group"

Thinking about this more I am scared of this event. I want to do it, but I think it would be either an event with people that have very few relics or just an event with very few people.

jedibcg wrote: Thinking about this more I am scared of this event. I want to do it, but I think it would be either an event with people that have very few relics or just an event with very few people.

To me, it seems like this event would be limited to only the higher-ups; the people with the most tokens. Sure, there might be a few people with only a couple relics, but it seems too...narrow a focus, if that makes sense. I get that Jeff is trying to treat the major transmute players to a wonderful event, but there should be a way a regular player could get in without having to spend tons of money.

I think it is a great idea. IMO I think one ticket per person would be great. I even like the idea of soulforging the cube to the person, and not to a person or in his/her group.

I see that there would either have to be a ton of relics and a few legendaries in 2014 or we would have quite a bit of open gear spots. If there are Relics for most of the slots, then it would make a huge jump in power creep for the normal dungeon.

Currently for relics I have:

2 +3 Mithral Bracers
5-7 Draco-Lich Claw Charms
4 Girdles of Frost Giant Strength
2 Greater Cloak of Destiny
1 Ring of Improved Evasion
1 Supreme Ring of Elemental Command

and Rod of Seven Parts 1-6.

So I could make one decent monk..lol but that is about it.

jedibcg wrote: My first question is what about those that equip a party of 10? I have currently 4 Girdles of Frost Giant. Would they all be soulforged to me? Do I choose whom they get soulforged to? Since I also buy all tickets for my group (often without any reimbursement) would I be able to buy these special slots for them?

I think the idea is awesome I just would like to know some more details.

I think it's just the Cubic Gate Relic that is soul-forged.

It sounds like a neat idea. It sounds like it would work extremely well for individual players - I'm not sure how well it will work for someone like me, that outfits a party of about 15 players that all play over the course of several Dungeon runs each year. I doubt I'd have the resources to outfit a full group with Cubic Gates and Relic armor/weapons/etc.

Do you have to get a different Cubic Gate Relic for each year, or does the one Cubic Gate relic get you in the door each year? I can see pros and cons both ways.

I guess in summary, I think it sounds like a really great idea, and would make Relics a lot of fun in a special event! I hope you'd have enough slots to support everyone wanting to play, it would not go well if someone invested a lot to get the Cubic Gate and a bunch of relics and then couldn't get a ticket.

Matthew Wheat wrote:

jedibcg wrote: Thinking about this more I am scared of this event. I want to do it, but I think it would be either an event with people that have very few relics or just an event with very few people.

To me, it seems like this event would be limited to only the higher-ups; the people with the most tokens. Sure, there might be a few people with only a couple relics, but it seems too...narrow a focus, if that makes sense. I get that Jeff is trying to treat the major transmute players to a wonderful event, but there should be a way a regular player could get in without having to spend tons of money.

To be build one relic you can get just about everything you need in a 1k pack. I got a +2 Mithral Bracers as a random UR in 2012 and just used everything in the 1k pack I bought to make it +3. The real issue is what the cube will cost to build? If the cube is cheap anyone can join the event you just would have to play without tokens. If it is expensive then it would be limited. Also we have a lot of new players out there with a relic or two without having spent lots of money on tokens.

@ Mike. Yeah I caught that it is the gate and edited my comment. Excellent question Mike about if the gate is good for one year or you need a new one.

Hopefully it's a one time thing as the relics are kind of expensive to make as is.

The cube could make the price of tokens go back up depending on what it takes. 1 of each Monster Trophy? Lots of Gold? How about some nice precious completion trophies. Ohhh and a volunteer trophy to show your commitment to TD (either be buying or volunteering). This could get real interesting. Or it could be really easy. Jeff the ball is in your court. I would wagger that everyone and their mother would want to do this event. It is just a question on who can afford it. Those that cannot will be upset and those that can might think the price is too high, but you will have those that will do whatever it takes to do more TD. You have a solid product that we want to buy.