TOPIC: Orb of Dragonkind $18? Wish Ring $18 PYP $18?

What do you think of this break down? 350 lots at $25

Lot 1 Orb of Dragonkind
Lot 2 Wish Ring
Lot 3-10 Tooth of Cavadar
Lot 11 Onyx Proof set ( Non UR)
Lot 12-43 PYP
Lot 44-47 1 signed copy of BOTH modules after the event is over in November, 2017, 1 Limited-edition “Adventurers’ Guild” entrance buttons and 1 Limited-edition “Adventurers’ Guild” token
Lot 48-51 1 signed copy of BOTH modules after the event is over in November, 2017
Lot 52 1 Patron Lapel Pin which will allow you to enjoy the TD Patron events at True Dungeon Celebration.
Lot 53-118 4 X (token 10 packs) 40 tokens w/ the random 4% chance of the UR
Lot 119-350 3 X (token 10 packs) 30 tokens w/ the random 3% chance of the UR

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote: i would never do anything like this. it is too easy for people to pick out the "good" packs....not saying you would do that
but it is just way to easy to tell which ones have the URs in the packs(or even GT)

Is it still possible to identify UR and GT packs? I knew that was the case a number of years ago, but I thought it had been addressed.

Mike Steele wrote:

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote: i would never do anything like this. it is too easy for people to pick out the "good" packs....not saying you would do that
but it is just way to easy to tell which ones have the URs in the packs(or even GT)

Is it still possible to identify UR and GT packs? I knew that was the case a number of years ago, but I thought it had been addressed.

I did it in July with my last order. Picked out the three big 10 packs. Then the pack with in for each.

There has to be a way to determine which packs contain an UR or GT. Otherwise it would be hard to list that each big order contains a definite number of extra UR with a set percentage for another. Also, you would have heard about folks getting mulitple GTs per 8K order in the past.

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote: i would never do anything like this. it is too easy for people to pick out the "good" packs....not saying you would do that
but it is just way to easy to tell which ones have the URs in the packs(or even GT)

Is it still possible to identify UR and GT packs? I knew that was the case a number of years ago, but I thought it had been addressed.

I did it in July with my last order. Picked out the three big 10 packs. Then the pack with in for each.

Chad, what do you mean by big 10 packs? Are they taller than the regular packs?

Mike Steele wrote:

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote: i would never do anything like this. it is too easy for people to pick out the "good" packs....not saying you would do that
but it is just way to easy to tell which ones have the URs in the packs(or even GT)

Is it still possible to identify UR and GT packs? I knew that was the case a number of years ago, but I thought it had been addressed.

I did it in July with my last order. Picked out the three big 10 packs. Then the pack with in for each.

Chad, what do you mean by big 10 packs? Are they taller than the regular packs?

So, what I'm getting out of this, is that if you buy the discounted packs anywhere, you basically have a 0% chance for UR"s?

McDroggin wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote: i would never do anything like this. it is too easy for people to pick out the "good" packs....not saying you would do that
but it is just way to easy to tell which ones have the URs in the packs(or even GT)

Is it still possible to identify UR and GT packs? I knew that was the case a number of years ago, but I thought it had been addressed.

I did it in July with my last order. Picked out the three big 10 packs. Then the pack with in for each.

Chad, what do you mean by big 10 packs? Are they taller than the regular packs?

So, what I'm getting out of this, is that if you buy the discounted packs anywhere, you basically have a 0% chance for UR"s?

The only thing I have to counter this, is that we will be giving all of the packs out and randomly assigning the lot number to each pack.

McDroggin wrote: What do you think of this break down? 350 lots at $25

Lot 1 Orb of Dragonkind
Lot 2 Wish Ring
Lot 3-10 Tooth of Cavadar
Lot 11 Onyx Proof set ( Non UR)
Lot 12-43 PYP
Lot 44-47 1 signed copy of BOTH modules after the event is over in November, 2017, 1 Limited-edition “Adventurers’ Guild” entrance buttons and 1 Limited-edition “Adventurers’ Guild” token
Lot 48-51 1 signed copy of BOTH modules after the event is over in November, 2017
Lot 52 1 Patron Lapel Pin which will allow you to enjoy the TD Patron events at True Dungeon Celebration.
Lot 53-118 4 X (token 10 packs) 40 tokens w/ the random 4% chance of the UR
Lot 119-350 3 X (token 10 packs) 30 tokens w/ the random 3% chance of the UR

Believe me when I say I admire your efforts here, and there may be something to this, but one problem you are going to face is that people don't value token 10 packs at anything like the list price.

I have sold hundreds of token 10 packs over the last two years, and they are very difficult to sell at any price above $5.

So, for the proposal here while on paper it looks like everyone is sort of coming out about even, in fact lots 119-350 are just no appealing - no one wants to buy 3 token 10 packs for $25, or $20, or even $18.

I've been listing 10x token 10 pack pre order for $55 for 2017 preorder and haven't had a single taker.

Matthew Hayward wrote:

McDroggin wrote: What do you think of this break down? 350 lots at $25

Lot 1 Orb of Dragonkind
Lot 2 Wish Ring
Lot 3-10 Tooth of Cavadar
Lot 11 Onyx Proof set ( Non UR)
Lot 12-43 PYP
Lot 44-47 1 signed copy of BOTH modules after the event is over in November, 2017, 1 Limited-edition “Adventurers’ Guild” entrance buttons and 1 Limited-edition “Adventurers’ Guild” token
Lot 48-51 1 signed copy of BOTH modules after the event is over in November, 2017
Lot 52 1 Patron Lapel Pin which will allow you to enjoy the TD Patron events at True Dungeon Celebration.
Lot 53-118 4 X (token 10 packs) 40 tokens w/ the random 4% chance of the UR
Lot 119-350 3 X (token 10 packs) 30 tokens w/ the random 3% chance of the UR

Believe me when I say I admire your efforts here, and there may be something to this, but one problem you are going to face is that people don't value token 10 packs at anything like the list price.

I have sold hundreds of token 10 packs over the last two years, and they are very difficult to sell at any price above $5.

So, for the proposal here while on paper it looks like everyone is sort of coming out about even, in fact lots 119-350 are just no appealing - no one wants to buy 3 token 10 packs for $25, or $20, or even $18.

I've been listing 10x token 10 pack pre order for $55 for 2017 preorder and haven't had a single taker.

Yes, I was very afraid of that. My only hope was that the appeal of getting the top end stuff without having to shell out a big chunk of cash would make it worth it.

Keep your comments coming, I will do this if there is enough interest. I'm thinking we might be better off with a different approach though... check this idea out. $8k auction?

Mike Steele wrote:

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote: i would never do anything like this. it is too easy for people to pick out the "good" packs....not saying you would do that
but it is just way to easy to tell which ones have the URs in the packs(or even GT)

Is it still possible to identify UR and GT packs? I knew that was the case a number of years ago, but I thought it had been addressed.

I did it in July with my last order. Picked out the three big 10 packs. Then the pack with in for each.

Chad, what do you mean by big 10 packs? Are they taller than the regular packs?

what i mean is if you do $1000 order you get a 12 big packs of ten...each of those big packs contain 10 packs of tokens
i can pick out which of the big packs contain the Ur(or better)
then i open that pack..look at the little 10 packs..i can usually get which one of those little 10 contain the UR(or better)
if I can find the video software to convert my video to correct format, I can post it on youtube
that way you can see what I mean

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote: i would never do anything like this. it is too easy for people to pick out the "good" packs....not saying you would do that
but it is just way to easy to tell which ones have the URs in the packs(or even GT)

Is it still possible to identify UR and GT packs? I knew that was the case a number of years ago, but I thought it had been addressed.

I did it in July with my last order. Picked out the three big 10 packs. Then the pack with in for each.

Chad, what do you mean by big 10 packs? Are they taller than the regular packs?

what i mean is if you do $1000 order you get a 12 big packs of ten...each of those big packs contain 10 packs of tokens
i can pick out which of the big packs contain the Ur(or better)
then i open that pack..look at the little 10 packs..i can usually get which one of those little 10 contain the UR(or better)
if I can find the video software to convert my video to correct format, I can post it on youtube
that way you can see what I mean

OK, I understand now what you mean. I'm still curious about how you can tell which big pack has the UR/Golden Ticket, and then how you tell which little 10 pack has the UR/Golden Ticket. I'm assuming it's due to a variation in the shrink wrapping. I recall many years ago, the UR usually had the shrink wrapping completely sealed on the bottom, and the others had a gap in the shrink wrapping on the bottom.