TOPIC: Bone White Border

I have a bone white bordered Alchemist's Ink 10X trade item. It is a common rarity. I can't find any information on this item with a Google search. Is the white border special? Or do I just have a trade item? If so, how much gold is it worth? It doesn't say on the token. Where do I trade it in to purchase new equipment?

https://tokendb.com/token/10x-alchemists-inks/

Trade goods are brown backed. 10x of those trade goods are ivory (or whatever) backed.

Bone white is the 10x Color. It just means that token has the value of 10 of its type. Depending on what you want to do will determine its value. Cash wise a single alchemist ink sits about $4ish bucks right now on TD Tavern (so 40ish for yours). If you wanna sell fast for cash normally that involves going lower than the norm, but the community is its own market.

You can trade with any one on the forums for new equipment. Depending on your goals many of us are happy to help you out.

Rough ballparks of value can be found on tdtavern(dotcom), trenttokens(dotcom) and utakustradecaravan(dotcom). They're usually on the higher end of the value spectrum but not always.

If you're looking for powerful rare equipment for a class feel free to PM me and we may be able to work something out.

Congrats on a nice pull!

You can find out information on any token on https://tokendb.com/

The token you pulled in worth 10 Alchemist Inks. That can be used in recipes for transmuting.

All the details are here:
https://truedungeon.com/tep

The only official use is for the transmutation program which allows you to turn some tokens into better tokens. You take one token, some number of trade goods, and make a better token. Here are some current options:

tokendb.com/?fwp_pub_year=2023&fwp_rare_box=transmuted-enhanced-3-pt%2Ctransmuted-exalted-4-pt%2Ctransmuted-relic-5-pt

(also you can change the year to 2024 to see another set of currently-available recipes)

But as has been said, you can also sell the token, or trade for things that are useful to you. I'd be happy to work out a trade with you if you want to look around at www.tdtavern.com and find about $40 of useful tokens.

I'm a complete noob to TD. I played my first game Saturday night at Gen Con. I thought wth and bought a 100 coin pack afterwards.

I don't have any preferred class as of now, but I played a Cleric and my son played the Wizard.

Does this coin count as 10 of the 25 common coins needed to make a trade? Or is it only useful in the listed recipes?

While I'm at it, what the hell are Gold coin values worth? I see the 500, but what does that get me if the trade is 25 commons. What about the value of the platinum coins? It says 50gp and has the same picture as my gold one. Are they only equal to one common coin also in a trade for whatever the hell I'm trading for?

Maybe there's something better to explain the market inside the game? Not looking for real money yet. Just to get better items. Preferably UR, but I'm sure my small collection is only worth a R in trade value.

Values are outlined here:
truedungeon.com/tep

1 Transmute Item is usually made up of 25 other token values. Many have point conversion on top of them (Alchemist Ink, Alchemist Parchment, Darkwood Plank, Enchanters Munition, Mystic Silk, Philosopher Stone) where a common is 1 point, uncommon is 3 points, and rare is 6 points. The 10x Alchemist Ink can be thought of as 250 Common Potions.

GP is also just a trade good item, used in the recipes Kirk was talking about, there isn't a store, but think of it as a diegetic way to pay the wizard whose transmuting your token into a better token. 1000GP is usually around 10ish dollars these days. Some people do trade purely in GP for items, its really up to the person and what you wish to do.

If you are new to the game I do recommend looking at an all rare build, they're usually much higher bang for the buck in terms of immediate improvement, but if you would like URs, I have a very small amount, but Kirk and Trent have plenty of decent value URs (Lucky Kilt being the most commonly recommended). If you have a goal in mind that can help us help you without overloading you with unneeded information.

For example, if you had a goal to get you and your son ready for Hardcore. Or if you just want a generic set of tokens good for any class on Normal, you would like to pull more treasure, etc. TD is a game that will be driven by what you want, and what brings you joy.

Eric Heavrin wrote: I'm a complete noob to TD. I played my first game Saturday night at Gen Con. I thought wth and bought a 100 coin pack afterwards.

Congrats on jumping in! It's lots of fun!

Eric Heavrin wrote: I don't have any preferred class as of now, but I played a Cleric and my son played the Wizard.

No worries, this is your time and try out some different classes to find your favorites.

Eric Heavrin wrote: Does this coin count as 10 of the 25 common coins needed to make a trade? Or is it only useful in the listed recipes?

It counts as 10 x 25 commons, so 10 complete Alchemist's Inks. 25 commons to make 1, you have 10 so equivalent to 250 commons!
Read through this page it will help you make sense of all the different trade goods and how you make them.
https://truedungeon.com/trade-token-redemption

Eric Heavrin wrote: While I'm at it, what the hell are Gold coin values worth? I see the 500, but what does that get me if the trade is 25 commons. What about the value of the platinum coins? It says 50gp and has the same picture as my gold one. Are they only equal to one common coin also in a trade for whatever the hell I'm trading for?

Gold is also used for transmuting recipes, building better tokens. They can also be used to trade for other tokens sometimes. 1000 gold is currently worth $11-12.
The platinum backed coins are the same as the gold backed ones, except they are slightly more collectable. Only 1 per 10 token pack. So the same value as any other common.

Eric Heavrin wrote: Maybe there's something better to explain the market inside the game? Not looking for real money yet. Just to get better items. Preferably UR, but I'm sure my small collection is only worth a R in trade value.

I recommend reading through that TEP page I linked above it will answer many questions.
Here's an example:
If you have:
50 GP Oasis Cup and
at least 1,000 in GP
You can make:
Chalice of Chugging
Feel free to keep coming back with questions.

Every standard common, uncommon, and rare that come in the 10-packs of tokens can be converted into some sort of trade good. The only exception is if you got lucky and pulled an ultra-rare (purple text) which are in 1 out of 100 10-packs.

Every token should indicate at the top what it converts into with two small letters.

GP can generally be spent as-is, so if a recipe requires 1,000 GP then you can generally send in two 500 GP tokens, for example.

For AI (Alchemist's Ink), AP (Alchemist's Parchment), DP (Darkwood Plank), EM (Enchanter's Munition), MS (Mystic Silk), and PS (Philosopher's Stone), you need 25 points of tokens to craft one trade token. Common tokens (black text) are worth 1pt, uncommon (green text) are worth 3pt, and rare (red text) are worth 6pt). So, for example, if I had four rare (red) tokens and one black (common) token that say "MS" at the top, that can be converted into one Mystic Silk trade good.

For Aragonite (AG), Dwarven Steel (DS), Elven Bismuth (EB), Minotaur Hide (MH), and Oil of Enchantment (OE) it takes 25 tokens -- each of those requires a specific rarity of tokens already. For example, Aragonite requires 25 rare armor or weapons, so all of the tokens will be rare.

Golden Fleece requires any 10 monster trophies that are found in the treasure boxes at conventions or online from playing Virtual TD. You can't get monster trophies from 10-packs.

Does that help?

Transmuting tokens is basically a 2-step process:

1. Trade in common, uncommon and rare tokens for trade goods. 25 units gets you a single trade good. GP works in the same way, you can trade in low value GP for higher value bars, e.g. a 1000 GP gold bar.

2. Use the trade goods and GP bars you made in step 1 to complete recipes for special tokens not available in 10-packs.

The token you pulled counts as 10x Alchemist's Ink. You don't need to trade it in to get them (although you can do that if you'd rather have 10 separate tokens) - the token itself can be used as though it were 10 of them. It means you get to skip step 1 above, so you already have 10 trade goods ready to use.

Something to keep in mind for Transmuting...

To fulfill a Transmuted token's recipe, you must provide the exact items the recipe calls for--not the equivalent in "raw" tokens. E.g., if you want to make a recipe that requires one Elven Bismuth, you must send in an Elven Bismuth token, not 25 Uncommon weapon tokens in its place. This also applies if you are also making Trade tokens for future exchange. You may not send in (as an example) 50 Uncommon weapons and request that one of those two Elven Bismuths be applied to a recipe in the same shipment.

So basically, unless you acquired your Trade tokens via treasure pull of from a third party, you’ll need to make two shipments: the first one where you send in for all the Trade and/or Reserve tokens you need, and then a second shipment where you submit the exact recipe the Transmuted token you want calls for.

Why are we being "meanies" like this? The process has been designed to eliminate errors and confusion. It’s quite perplexing to try and interpret the convoluted schemes some collectors concoct. Rather than attempting to decipher twists, turns, and multi-layer cross-references, we want to keep these transactions as simple and uncomplicated as possible. This results in far fewer errors and reduces the number of angry emails from people whose convoluted orders got mixed up.

We realize this situation is not a perfect one, but we feel strongly that this is the best way to handle it. We think avoiding confusion and reducing errors is worth the added inconvenience. We understand it costs more in shipping this way (for both of us), but we think an orderly exchange is ultimately best for all parties.

The various levels of transmute recipes have varying costs. A 10x Alchemist’s Ink would be very useful for a legendary transmute. Breaking it into 10 Alchemist’s Inks would make it more useful for smaller transmutes.

That said, if you’re just getting started, my vote would be to trade it for ~$40 of solid rare (red) tokens, perhaps with a few good green (uncommon) or black (common) tokens. For ~$40, you could get enough tokens to make decent basic builds for you and your son for most classes. That would give you an opportunity to try a bunch and then decide which ones you like best.

Some ideas: +2 Cloak of Resistance, Ioun Stone Beryl Prism, Ioun Stone Moon Orb and/or Norse Opal, one each of a rare melee one-handed weapon, a rare melee two-handed weapon, a rare ranged weapon, and a rare mystic staff, one each of rare heavy and light armor and a robe, any of the +2 dexterity feet items, Dandy Shirt and/or Shirt of Vitality, or perhaps some Snake Priest Set items. Two Charms of Health would be nice. There are lots of options.