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Dispeling Confusion: Ring Con 2026 3 months 3 weeks ago #13

Mike Steele wrote:

kurtreznor wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

kurtreznor wrote:

Kaledor wrote: Read the important part, where it states you must have all four fragments, It does not state a completes PoE.

It contradicts the text in the body. If it's important that you most have all four Fragments. It needs clarification.

You know how gamers are rule lawyers. I get that the intent is to have a completed PoE. Need to fix the important section.


I think what it is saying is that; not only do you need the completed PoE, you ALSO have to be the person who transmuted the 4 fragments into the PoE.

So, a person can't transmute a full set of 10 and sell the other 9 slots.


I don't see where it says that the person who has the completed PoE also has to be the person that transmuted it. Am I missing something?

Jeff Martin wrote: Thus, you must have collected all four years of the PoE tokens and transmuted them to play in the PoE adventure.


Maybe that needs to be clarified. I read that as a generic "you", not saying that the person that transmuted it has to be the same person using it. It isn't soul-bound, so I don't know why it would have that restriction.


Stop trying to create confusion. Nowhere is it even implied that only having the completed Mark of Enlightenment is enough to get into this event. Every instance I can find specifically says you have to transmute all 4 into the final form. The act of creating the transmute is what gets you into the event...then you also have to have the transmuted token when you show up, like a ticket to the event.
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Dispeling Confusion: Ring Con 2026 3 months 3 weeks ago #14

kurtreznor wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

kurtreznor wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

kurtreznor wrote:

Kaledor wrote: Read the important part, where it states you must have all four fragments, It does not state a completes PoE.

It contradicts the text in the body. If it's important that you most have all four Fragments. It needs clarification.

You know how gamers are rule lawyers. I get that the intent is to have a completed PoE. Need to fix the important section.


I think what it is saying is that; not only do you need the completed PoE, you ALSO have to be the person who transmuted the 4 fragments into the PoE.

So, a person can't transmute a full set of 10 and sell the other 9 slots.


I don't see where it says that the person who has the completed PoE also has to be the person that transmuted it. Am I missing something?

Jeff Martin wrote: Thus, you must have collected all four years of the PoE tokens and transmuted them to play in the PoE adventure.


Maybe that needs to be clarified. I read that as a generic "you", not saying that the person that transmuted it has to be the same person using it. It isn't soul-bound, so I don't know why it would have that restriction.


Stop trying to create confusion. Nowhere is it even implied that only having the completed Mark of Enlightenment is enough to get into this event. Every instance I can find specifically says you have to transmute all 4 into the final form. The act of creating the transmute is what gets you into the event...then you also have to have the transmuted token when you show up, like a ticket to the event.


You may be right. It will probably be clarified when more details are released early next year.

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Dispeling Confusion: Ring Con 2026 3 months 3 weeks ago #15

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Dispeling Confusion: Ring Con 2026 3 months 3 weeks ago #16

Druegar wrote: Less confusing now?


Does the person presenting and using the Mark of Enlightenment at Ring Con need to be the same person that transmuted the Mark of Enlightenment? Is it essentially "soul bound" for Ring Con?

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Dispeling Confusion: Ring Con 2026 3 months 3 weeks ago #17

Has there been anything announced about the other Silver Ship Passages besides Northwood? Will they be related to RingCon at all?
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Dispeling Confusion: Ring Con 2026 3 months 3 weeks ago #18

Kirk Bauer wrote: Has there been anything announced about the other Silver Ship Passages besides Northwood? Will they be related to RingCon at all?


I’ve been wanting to know as well.

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Dispeling Confusion: Ring Con 2026 3 months 3 weeks ago #19

Regarding the custom name on a Mark of Enlightenment token:
  • The name on the token does not need to match the name of the person going on the run.
  • The name on the token does not have to be a real person.
  • True Dungeon reserves the right to refuse or edit any name we feel is not aligned with the spirit of our game. If this happens, we'll contact you before the token goes to print to get an alternate, mutually agreeable name.
  • When deciding the name you want on your token, bear in mind there is a limited amount of space available. The exact details of this character limit will be announced when we open up transmuting for this token.
In addition to the optional name, each Mark of Enlightenment token is going to have a non-optional unique alphanumeric code. You will not know what code you're getting until you receive your Mark of Enlightenment token. This code is going to be required to pre-register for the Path of Enlightenment event and will be verified at the event when you check in.
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Dispeling Confusion: Ring Con 2026 3 months 3 weeks ago #20

Kirk Bauer wrote: Has there been anything announced about the other Silver Ship Passages besides [Mirthwood]?

The effects for Silver Ship Passage Outpost Nil and Silver Ship Passage Pemberton are still veiled. We haven't forgotten about them, but we can't say what's happening with them yet.

Kirk Bauer wrote: Will they be related to Ring Con at all?

Possibly
To be clear, I'm not trying to be coy here. Don't interpret that as "Possibly <wink wink>" because that is not what I'm implying.
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Dispeling Confusion: Ring Con 2026 3 months 3 weeks ago #21

Sorry, new to the ships and Ring Con jazz (excited for it all), but just to double check: is it safe to assume the ships will not be related at all due to the fact you have to trade in Mirthwood on redemption? I'm just speculating/curious if there will be some crazy transmute like "Silver Ship Passages Big Ol' Boat" that will require each ship.

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Dispeling Confusion: Ring Con 2026 3 months 3 weeks ago #22

BeLinda Mathie wrote: Here's how I understand it, but someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

Make Ring of the X Circle Transmute: access to RingCon, can do 1 special Ring run (maybe 2 if you have 2 Rings and there is room, like you could do with 2 Skulls).

Make Path of Enlightment by relevant deadline: access to special Path event at RingCon. (Kind of like the Patron-only run at SkullCon.)

Own a Silver Ship Passage: MIrthwood: access to a special room at RingCon.


Belinda has a good summary. There is no transmute for the Ship passages. Ship's Passage Mirthwood is turned in at Ring Con to participate in a 12-minute adventure.

Ship's passage Pemberton and Nil are still shrouded in mystery and we do not know what they are for yet.

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Dispeling Confusion: Ring Con 2026 3 months 3 weeks ago #23

kurtreznor wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

kurtreznor wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

kurtreznor wrote:

Kaledor wrote: Read the important part, where it states you must have all four fragments, It does not state a completes PoE.

It contradicts the text in the body. If it's important that you most have all four Fragments. It needs clarification.

You know how gamers are rule lawyers. I get that the intent is to have a completed PoE. Need to fix the important section.


I think what it is saying is that; not only do you need the completed PoE, you ALSO have to be the person who transmuted the 4 fragments into the PoE.

So, a person can't transmute a full set of 10 and sell the other 9 slots.


I don't see where it says that the person who has the completed PoE also has to be the person that transmuted it. Am I missing something?

Jeff Martin wrote: Thus, you must have collected all four years of the PoE tokens and transmuted them to play in the PoE adventure.


Maybe that needs to be clarified. I read that as a generic "you", not saying that the person that transmuted it has to be the same person using it. It isn't soul-bound, so I don't know why it would have that restriction.


Stop trying to create confusion. Nowhere is it even implied that only having the completed Mark of Enlightenment is enough to get into this event. Every instance I can find specifically says you have to transmute all 4 into the final form. The act of creating the transmute is what gets you into the event...then you also have to have the transmuted token when you show up, like a ticket to the event.


See Druegar's recent post for clarification on this topic.

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Dispeling Confusion: Ring Con 2026 3 months 3 weeks ago #24

Mike Steele wrote:

kurtreznor wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

kurtreznor wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

kurtreznor wrote:

Kaledor wrote: Read the important part, where it states you must have all four fragments, It does not state a completes PoE.

It contradicts the text in the body. If it's important that you most have all four Fragments. It needs clarification.

You know how gamers are rule lawyers. I get that the intent is to have a completed PoE. Need to fix the important section.


I think what it is saying is that; not only do you need the completed PoE, you ALSO have to be the person who transmuted the 4 fragments into the PoE.

So, a person can't transmute a full set of 10 and sell the other 9 slots.


I don't see where it says that the person who has the completed PoE also has to be the person that transmuted it. Am I missing something?

Jeff Martin wrote: Thus, you must have collected all four years of the PoE tokens and transmuted them to play in the PoE adventure.


Maybe that needs to be clarified. I read that as a generic "you", not saying that the person that transmuted it has to be the same person using it. It isn't soul-bound, so I don't know why it would have that restriction.


Stop trying to create confusion. Nowhere is it even implied that only having the completed Mark of Enlightenment is enough to get into this event. Every instance I can find specifically says you have to transmute all 4 into the final form. The act of creating the transmute is what gets you into the event...then you also have to have the transmuted token when you show up, like a ticket to the event.


See Druegar's recent post for clarification on this topic.


Druegar's post is mute on this topic you two are disputing.

It says the name on the token doesn't have to be a real name or the name of the person who crafted the token.

That's unrelated to whether or not being in possession of Mark of Enlightenment that you personally transmuted is prerequisite to attending the special event at Ring Con.

The wording at:

truedungeon.com/ring-con

Under a strict, literal interpretation, requires the real person who did the transmuting to be the attendee:

"This exclusive affair is open only to True Dungeon players who have transmuted the five different Rings of the Nth Circle into a Ring of the Sacred Circle."

Later on the same page:

"there's an even more exclusive experience available to token collectors who have collected all four Path to Enlightenment fragments and transmuted them into their final form: the Mark of Enlightenment."

Again, a strict and literal interpretation of the wording limits attendees to those who actually did the transmuting.

This sentiment is repeated a third time further down on the same page:

"IMPORTANT NOTE: To be eligible to play the patron-only Path to Enlightenment sub-event at Ring Con in 2026, Patrons must transmute and present the completed Mark of Enlightenment token. "

As written, to attend you must transmute a Path of Enlightenment - merely being in possession of one to present is not sufficient.




Now - I believe these limitations are silly, and probably not what TD intended.

However, it's odd that given the opportunity to clarify, TDs updated the page and didn't change these things.

It would have been easy enough to say something like:

"To attend this exclusive event, True Dungeon players must possess and present a Ring of the Sacred Circle. Ring of the Sacred Circle is transmuted from the five different Rings of the Nth Circle."

And:

"...there's a more exclusive experience available to players who possess and present a transmuted Mark of Enlightenment token. The Mark of Enlightenment token is transmuted from the four Path to Enlightenment fragments."

If that's what TD means.

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