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TOPIC: Dispeling Confusion: Ring Con 2026

Dispeling Confusion: Ring Con 2026 3 months 2 weeks ago #25

Druegar wrote: Less confusing now?


One remaining point of confusion is whether or not attendees must have themselves transmuted their Rings of the Sacred Circle/Mark of Enlightenment to attend various events or not.

In multiple places the page you linked explicitly states that things like:

"This exclusive affair is open only to True Dungeon players who have transmuted the five different Rings of the Nth Circle into a Ring of the Sacred Circle."

"Additionally, at Ring Con, there's an even more exclusive experience available to token collectors who have collected all four Path to Enlightenment fragments and transmuted them into their final form: the Mark of Enlightenment."

A strict interpretation of these statements mean that in order to attend Ring Con in general, or partake in the special exclusive Path of Enlightenment event, the attendee must have transmuted the tokens in question themselves; not merely be in possession of a transmuted version of the token.

I don't think that's what TD intends - but that's what the page says (literally).

I suggest TD consider and clarify these questions:

1. If you own a Ring of the Sacred Circle, but didn't transmute it yourself, can you attend Ring Con by presenting this token?

2. If someone has loaned you a Ring of the Sacred Circle, but you don't own it and didn't transmute it, can you attend Ring Con by presenting this token?

3. If you are attending Ring Con, and own a Mark of Enlightenment, but didn't transmute it yourself, can you attend the exclusive event using this token?

4. If you are attending Ring Con, and someone has loaned you a Mark of Enlightenment, but you don't own it and didn't transmute it, can you attend the exclusive event using this token?

And phrase the wording on the Ring Con page in a way that unambiguously rules these scenarios either in our out.

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Last edit: by Matthew Hayward.

Dispeling Confusion: Ring Con 2026 3 months 2 weeks ago #26

Matthew, while I agree with you that the issue could use more clarification, I don't think Druegar's post was mute on it. I do think "The name on the token does not need to match the name of the person going on the run.
The name on the token does not have to be a real person." at least indicates that the person transmuting doesn't have to be the person playing.

But to me the real indication is that the process for registering is "In addition to the optional name, each Mark of Enlightenment token is going to have a non-optional unique alphanumeric code. You will not know what code you're getting until you receive your Mark of Enlightenment token. This code is going to be required to pre-register for the Path of Enlightenment event and will be verified at the event when you check in." That seems to be a similar process for Skull Con, where anyone could pre-register and then show up to play as long as they have a unique code and the token that goes with it. It doesn't seem to matter how the person gets the token as long as they have the code in hand to pre-register.

It seems pretty cut and dried to me, but some additional clarification and clearing up the wording you mentioned would be good.

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Last edit: by Mike Steele.

Dispeling Confusion: Ring Con 2026 3 months 2 weeks ago #27

Mike Steele wrote: Matthew, while I agree with you that the issue could use more clarification, I don't think Druegar's post was mute on it. I do think "The name on the token does not need to match the name of the person going on the run.
The name on the token does not have to be a real person." at least indicates that the person transmuting doesn't have to be the person playing.


I suspect that will end up being the rule in the end.

As it stands now, however, I disagree
With your assessment - those statements don’t (formally, logically) imply anything about transmuter requirements for admittance to the exclusive run.

These three potential rules are all logically compatible:

1. When transmuting the Mark of Enlightenment you may choose whatever name you like (e.g. ‘Bingo the Dog’) as the ‘Crafted by’ text.

2. The ‘Crafted by’ text on a Mark of Enlightenment need not match the name of a player using that token for admittance to the exclusive run at Ring Con.

3. Only the real person who transmuted a Mark of Enlightenment token may use it for admittance to the exclusive rum at Ring Con.


Druegar’s posts clarify that the rules #1 and #2 above are true. It does not clarify whether or not rule #3 is true.

The text on the Ring Con page - also posted by Druegar as part of the clarification - taken literally, entails that rule #3 is true.

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Last edit: by Matthew Hayward.

Dispeling Confusion: Ring Con 2026 3 months 2 weeks ago #28

Dispelling confusion and yet somehow people seem more confused.

I’m 99.99% sure whoever presents the MoE can do the patron event. However, the Mark is a tattoo. Whoever transmutes it can’t easily share a tattoo, but then again maybe it can be mystically transferred to another? At least, thinking in-game.

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Dispeling Confusion: Ring Con 2026 3 months 2 weeks ago #29

Corey Pressler wrote: Dispelling confusion and yet somehow people seem more confused.

I’m 99.99% sure whoever presents the MoE can do the patron event. However, the Mark is a tattoo. Whoever transmutes it can’t easily share a tattoo, but then again maybe it can be mystically transferred to another? At least, thinking in-game.


My belief is, much like a Patron or ag code, you will get a code emailed to you when you transmute your mark, or if you have done so.

That code will need to be entered into td.events

Entering the code will allow you to choose a time during registration, much like the Patron code does.

If you make a ring, you'll get a "ring" code
If you make a mark, you'll get a "mark" code

These codes are fully transferable. So you could loan you ring or mark, and it's use during ring con.

Each td.events account *may* be limited in the number of items they can buy at each level.


I have no individual knowledge of this, nor do I work for TD.

This is all based on prior events
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Dispeling Confusion: Ring Con 2026 3 months 2 weeks ago #30

Wade Schwendemann (Dr. Uid) wrote:

Corey Pressler wrote: Dispelling confusion and yet somehow people seem more confused.

I’m 99.99% sure whoever presents the MoE can do the patron event. However, the Mark is a tattoo. Whoever transmutes it can’t easily share a tattoo, but then again maybe it can be mystically transferred to another? At least, thinking in-game.


My belief is, much like a Patron or ag code, you will get a code emailed to you when you transmute your mark, or if you have done so.

That code will need to be entered into td.events

Entering the code will allow you to choose a time during registration, much like the Patron code does.

If you make a ring, you'll get a "ring" code
If you make a mark, you'll get a "mark" code

These codes are fully transferable. So you could loan you ring or mark, and it's use during ring con.

Each td.events account *may* be limited in the number of items they can buy at each level.


I have no individual knowledge of this, nor do I work for TD.

This is all based on prior events


Yeah, it seems odd that the most recent clarification didn't actually clarify the thing we were discussing.
I THINK what you are saying is likely how it will work, but TD wants to emphasize that you NEED the token, not just the code...but every time, they avoid saying this and instead word it as if you have to be the one that does the transmuting.

MAYBE, they really do want to be more strict and avoid sharing/selling codes while loaning the token, but they also want to be careful not to hurt a family that has one person transmute multiple with the intention of taking their SO or kid.
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Dispeling Confusion: Ring Con 2026 3 months 2 weeks ago #31

Wade Schwendemann (Dr. Uid) wrote:

Corey Pressler wrote: Dispelling confusion and yet somehow people seem more confused.

I’m 99.99% sure whoever presents the MoE can do the patron event. However, the Mark is a tattoo. Whoever transmutes it can’t easily share a tattoo, but then again maybe it can be mystically transferred to another? At least, thinking in-game.


My belief is, much like a Patron or ag code, you will get a code emailed to you when you transmute your mark, or if you have done so.

That code will need to be entered into td.events

Entering the code will allow you to choose a time during registration, much like the Patron code does.

If you make a ring, you'll get a "ring" code
If you make a mark, you'll get a "mark" code

These codes are fully transferable. So you could loan you ring or mark, and it's use during ring con.

Each td.events account *may* be limited in the number of items they can buy at each level.


I have no individual knowledge of this, nor do I work for TD.

This is all based on prior events


The code is actually printed on the token.

"In addition to the optional name, each Mark of Enlightenment token is going to have a non-optional unique alphanumeric code. You will not know what code you're getting until you receive your Mark of Enlightenment token. This code is going to be required to pre-register for the Path of Enlightenment event and will be verified at the event when you check in."

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