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2021 Ultra Rare Almost Final! 4 years 1 month ago #25

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Anthony Barnstable wrote: 1 more push: Ring of Power should be same effect but called Ring of Expertise. “Of Power” as a token generally meant “recast as scroll” while “of Expertise” meant “cast without marking it off of the card”. Expertise better first with the written effect.


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2021 Ultra Rare Almost Final! 4 years 1 month ago #26

Anthony Barnstable wrote: 1 more push: Ring of Power should be same effect but called Ring of Expertise. “Of Power” as a token generally meant “recast as scroll” while “of Expertise” meant “cast without marking it off of the card”. Expertise better first with the written effect.


Good idea!

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2021 Ultra Rare Almost Final! 4 years 1 month ago #27

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Matthew Hayward wrote: Cranston's Helpful Hat still too good in my opinion. +3 ranged damage in the head slot seems like a fine UR on it's own.


+1, would prefer +2 to ranged hit as before.
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2021 Ultra Rare Almost Final! 4 years 1 month ago #28

Hey...the [color=]Charm of Bonding[/color] is not going to work for various reasons, so I am replacing it with an Ultra Rare themed around someone you might meet in V1. Behold!

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2021 Ultra Rare Almost Final! 4 years 1 month ago #29

Jeff Martin wrote: Hey...the [color=]Charm of Bonding[/color] is not going to work for various reasons, so I am replacing it with an Ultra Rare themed around someone you might meet in V1. Behold!


Gulp! Is it too late to ask for a reprint of the “Potion of Leaping Attack?” ;)
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2021 Ultra Rare Almost Final! 4 years 1 month ago #30

SnakeEyes (Eric) wrote:

Jeff Martin wrote: Hey...the [color=]Charm of Bonding[/color] is not going to work for various reasons, so I am replacing it with an Ultra Rare themed around someone you might meet in V1. Behold!


Gulp! Is it too late to ask for a reprint of the “Potion of Leaping Attack?” ;)


I want to see Smakdown pretend to fly around like a butterfly for a round of combat!
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2021 Ultra Rare Almost Final! 4 years 1 month ago #31

Charm of the Faerie is cool, but it's already better than the Volunteer token that just came out last year which kind of sucks I think.
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2021 Ultra Rare Almost Final! 4 years 1 month ago #32

Pstyle wrote: Could Druids get on Ring of Power please?

Charm of Bonding looks interesting and strong.

Like the reprints, like the lucky cloak, looks like a cool year of fun stuff for lots of people.


Druid Wizard Ring Swap - you get Power, we get Ring of Quick ...I can't quite make out the last word... - deal!
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2021 Ultra Rare Almost Final! 4 years 1 month ago #33

Jeff Martin wrote: I want to see Smakdown pretend to fly around like a butterfly for a round of combat!


Suddenly feel like TD could go for a new teaser video after this comes out. :laugh:
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2021 Ultra Rare Almost Final! 4 years 1 month ago #34

I'm a bit worried about the Ring of Quick Prayer, as Free Action spell with full damage modifiers has so far:

a. Never been class locked.
b. Been limited to 1/game (RoSS), or 1/room (Cabal Set)

This token has no frequency limitations.

I'm worried that a BiS Druid who builds towards Polymorph Melee but still has a spell bonus of say, +20 gets to tack on a 28 point Freezing Orb every round for 10 rounds (with charm of spell swapping). I think they might end up outdamaging Fighters or Barbarians (Druids get Keen polymorph for the 19-20 crit range and +5 damage when polymorphed).

Put another way: A BiS melee Fighter/Barbarian will need to be dealing ~30 more points a round than Polymorph/Melee Druid to keep up with a FA 28 point Freezing Orb.

I'll plan to run the numbers on that tomorrow.

My thought would be to do one of:

1. Make the spells that can be cast as a FA healing spells.
2. Make the spells that can be cast as a FA be non-damage spells.
3. Limit the ring to 1/room.
4. Add Wizards to the ring, in which case it's fine as is :P
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2021 Ultra Rare Almost Final! 4 years 1 month ago #35

Matthew Hayward wrote: I'm a bit worried about the Ring of Quick Prayer, as Free Action spell with full damage modifiers has so far:

a. Never been class locked.
b. Been limited to 1/game (RoSS), or 1/room (Cabal Set)

This token has no speed limitations of that type.

I'm worried that a BiS Druid who builds towards Polymorph Melee but still has a spell bonus of say, +20 gets to tack on a 28 point Freezing Orb every round. I think they might end up outdamaging Fighters or Barbarians (Druids get Keen polymorph for the 19-20 crit range and +5 damage when polymorphed).

I'll plan to run the numbers on that tomorrow.

My thought would be to do one of:

1. Make the spells that can be cast as a FA healing spells.
2. Make the spells that can be cast as a FA be non-damage spells.
3. Limit the ring to 1/room.
4. Add Wizards to the ring, in which case it's fine as is :P


I’d rather take druids off the ring then nerf it for clerics, who it’s really intended for.
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2021 Ultra Rare Almost Final! 4 years 1 month ago #36

James Bennett wrote: ... Ring of Quick Prayer. I do suggest considering dropping the Druid from it because the cleric has more limited damage spells which are harder to use than the druid can cast.

Edit: I just saw they were removed from the Ring of Power. I alter my suggestion to remove them from Ring of Quick Prayer and put them on Ring of Power.


No, as much as it pains me to say so (since they are my two main classes), removing both Cleric and Druid from Ring of Power Expertise was definitely the right call.

Otherwise an extra 7x Cure Light Wounds each (with full bonuses) would be tantamount to reinstating the original LoDS, and tempt the wrath of the whatever from high atop the thing.

(OK maybe 6x if the party takes no damage in the first room, but still)

A Druid with Ring of Quick Prayer is burning through their fixed allotment of spells twice as fast, not getting extra spells. Doesn't seem like a problem to me, especially since every spell cast for damage is one less to spell-swap for healing.

It's ironic that the Ring of Quick Prayer does not in fact enable quick Prayer (you need the relic for that). Would Ring of Blessing be a better name? If not, I'm happy to just smile at the irony each time I equip it. :)

In other news, I am much less in need of charm bracelets now. Also it's too bad that Charm of Bonding is already cut; I could really use a Charm of Being Able to Hit Things Better (even without the +dmg). Still, good set!
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