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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 4 years 1 month ago #1

I changed the Spectacles a wee bit more...have a look! I might have tweaked something else. At this point my memory is mush! Thanks again for the great help...and remember only you can prevent Druid debate!

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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 4 years 1 month ago #2

I'll just mention again that the Ring of Quick Blessing in the hands of a Druid is a MASSIVE boost of damage. That's adding a potential of +46 spell damage PER ROUND for 5 rounds in the hands of the Druid. That's adding 200+ damage to Druid over the course of a single Nightmare run.

I'll ask that Wizards be added to that token if you are intent on letting Druids keep it but I personally feel it is WAY WAY WAY too much added damage for a single UR token.
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 4 years 1 month ago #3

OK, I guess I'll mention again that the Dr. Uid and Cleric should be on the Ring of Expertise, as they are on the Crown of Expertise.

And, that the analysis by Matthew showed that the Dr. Uid was doing 903 damage over 10 turns with unlimited uses of the Ring of Quick Blessing, which I think drops to 763 with the five use limit on the Ring. Matthew also calculated the Wizard at 973 spell damage after 10 turns, which likely increases after the Wizard Legendary power boost.

Being over 200 spell damage points behind the Wizard supports the Dr. Uid not only staying on the Ring of Quick Blessing, but also being added to the Ring of Expertise.
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 4 years 1 month ago #4

Mike Steele wrote: OK, I guess I'll mention again that the Dr. Uid and Cleric should be on the Ring of Expertise, as they are on the Crown of Expertise.

And, that the analysis by Matthew showed that the Dr. Uid was doing 903 damage over 10 turns with unlimited uses of the Ring of Quick Blessing, which I think drops to 763 with the five use limit on the Ring. Matthew also calculated the Wizard at 973 spell damage after 10 turns, which likely increases after the Wizard Legendary power boost.

Being over 200 spell damage points behind the Wizard supports the Dr. Uid not only staying on the Ring of Quick Blessing, but also being added to the Ring of Expertise.


Your numbers relate to a token that no longer exists.

Are you seriously calling for a weakening of the Wizard legendary AND calling for a boost of Druid spell damage of 230 damage over 5 turns at the same time? And using the strength of the previous version of the Legendary token that will not get printed to validate your asks?

Are you SERIOUSLY claiming that without the Ring of Quick Blessing your max spell damage over 10 rounds of combat is 533?

I have no words for that kind of smoke and mirrors action.
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 4 years 1 month ago #5

Let me take one more stab at getting Cranston’s Helpful Hat toned down:

1. Using the extra eyes for Snipers Spectacles has this token give +3/+3 to ranged in the head slot.

Compare with UR Crown of Might at +1/+1 to melee.

+3/+3 to ranged feels like a relic belt, or a relic wrist upgrade to UR Bracers of Supreme Archery.

2. As Ranged now includes all spells, it’s +3 to spell damage at UR - something we’ve never seen - with the extra lenses you can equip Lenses of Focus for +3 to physical ranged, +4 to spell, +1 to healing.


Head slot feels very weak in general - this feels like a big jump up to me.
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 4 years 1 month ago #6

Matthew Hayward wrote: Let me take one more stab at getting Cranston’s Helpful Hat toned down:

1. Using the extra eyes for Snipers Spectacles has this token give +3/+3 to ranged in the head slot.

Compare with UR Crown of Might at +1/+1 to melee.

+3/+3 to ranged feels like a relic belt, or a relic wrist upgrade to UR Bracers of Supreme Archery.

2. As Ranged now includes all spells, it’s +3 to spell damage at UR - something we’ve never seen - with the extra lenses you can equip Lenses of Focus for +3 to physical ranged, +4 to spell, +1 to healing.


Head slot feels very weak in general - this feels like a big jump up to me.


Dropping the Crown of Expertise costs me 36 damage from an MEC level 2 spell. Using this hat gives me +4 per spell cast. I'd need 9 casts to break even.

With the Relic, assuming 2 rounds per fight I'd break even on fight 3.

I think for Wizards it's nearly a wash.

For melee or ranged classes it allows a strong boost to ranged damage (which is generally below Melee damage) but allows doubling of glasses up to a potential of +6 to hit ranged and +3 to damage ranged.

That sounds pretty strong for a head slot
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 4 years 1 month ago #7

Matthew Hayward wrote: Let me take one more stab at getting Cranston’s Helpful Hat toned down:

1. Using the extra eyes for Snipers Spectacles has this token give +3/+3 to ranged in the head slot.

Compare with UR Crown of Might at +1/+1 to melee.

+3/+3 to ranged feels like a relic belt, or a relic wrist upgrade to UR Bracers of Supreme Archery.

2. As Ranged now includes all spells, it’s +3 to spell damage at UR - something we’ve never seen - with the extra lenses you can equip Lenses of Focus for +3 to physical ranged, +4 to spell, +1 to healing.


Head slot feels very weak in general - this feels like a big jump up to me.


We were encouraged to consider if the token would be worth it without the +3 damage.

I think for some classes, yes.

I agree with Matthew...there aren't a ton of amazing Head tokens for people who can't equip heavy armor. Furthermore, with the release of the Lucky Set last year, there have to be at least a few Paladins, Fighters, and Clerics that switched to a set with no helm.

This token is very, very good. It's probably too good and a big jump in what the head slot can do.

I know it was said that the +3/+3 to range required two separate tokens, but it would still be a huge jump in the effect the head slot can have on the party sheet.

Finally, by not over-boosting the Hat now, it becomes less of a consideration when creating new UR eye tokens.
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 4 years 1 month ago #8

The way Psyferre's Spectacles are worded, "May equip +1 Figurine of Power" Does that mean if I can already equip two figurines, the spectacles allow me to equip +1 more figurine? Thus equipping 3 figurines?

If not, Bard and Paladin don't benefit from it's figurine bonus.
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 4 years 1 month ago #9

Simon wrote: The way Psyferre's Spectacles are worded, "May equip +1 Figurine of Power" Does that mean if I can already equip two figurines, the spectacles allow me to equip +1 more figurine? Thus equipping 3 figurines?

If not, Bard and Paladin don't benefit from it's figurine bonus.


Good question....
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 4 years 1 month ago #10

I'm sad that I can no longer use Psyferre's Spectacles to thwart Dave's attempts at dying no matter what class I happen to play. :(
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 4 years 1 month ago #11

Fiddy wrote: I'm sad that I can no longer use Psyferre's Spectacles to thwart Dave's attempts at dying no matter what class I happen to play. :(


I thought the scrolls 1/room were a very cool idea. It was something I could see picking up to have for a few classes and a cool idea to give support classes a few more toys.
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FINAL 2021 Ultra Rare Token Images! 4 years 1 month ago #12

Can cleric get some more love this year, in the year they get their relic and legendary?

Ring of quick blessing
Please change to non damage spells, add bard

Ring of expertise
Please add druid and cleric and change to non healing spells.
Last edit: by Endgame.
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