TOPIC: Transmute Token Ideas

Endgame wrote:
Cloak of Greater Adaptation
5* Relic
+6 to save of users choice, +3 to other saves

Transmutes from UR Cloak of Adaptation (+5 to save of users choice, +2 to other saves)

This design feels more like a multi-year transmute in line with the shirt and kilt. Start the 2nd piece in the shirt set with UR's of say, +6 to Will -1 to Fort, +6 to Fort -1 to Reflex, or +6 to Reflex -1 Will or something along those lines?

Shadow Shuriken
+2 Shadow Shuriken Deals 2 points of Darkrift. D4+2 damage wheel (D4+4 total)
+3 Shadow Shuriken Deals 2 points of Darkrift. Gains returning. D4+3 damage wheel (D4+5 total).
+5 Shadow Shuriken Deals 2 points of Darkrift. Returning. On a successful hit, deals the same damage to all monsters in the room. D4+5 damage wheel (D4+7 total)

A relic requiring multiple different current year URs and when made could be used to trade in for any UR from last handful of years.

Greaves of Guarding: -2 to all non-eldritch damage (requires one of each greaves to transmute)
Cloak of Illusion: +3 to all saves, and once per game absorbs a melee or missile hit
Tome of Knowledge: Slotless, provides +1 to any one type of save chosen at the start of the run
Bag of Holding: Once per game, you do not need to turn in a C, U or R consumable after using it.

Arcanist Kolixela wrote: Ring of Greater Focus is one of the most expensive and hard to find Relics, hence the healing focused side print.

Could definitely see a Ring transmute for weapon users as well

Ring of Accuracy (UR)
+2 to hit with melee and ranged attacks

Ring of Greater Accuracy (Relic)
+3 to hit with melee and ranged attacks

Person's Supreme Ring of Accuracy
+5 to hit with melee and ranged attacks


Another Heroism transmute could be a good option. Ioun Stone is probably a bit too open of a slot. Earcuff of Heroism could be a good option.

+1 to the melee and ranged accuracy ring, though does it make fighters feel bad that basically anyone can get most of the +hit they need in one slot? Might be best to make it a +1 hit melee and ranged at rare and a 4* that is +2 hit melee and ranged and just stop there?

Earcuff of heroism is a interesting choice. Do you choose 2x slot expanders or a level and a slot expander?

Develop a multi-year plan that creates a transmutable UR that allows for Relic & Legendary creation where the current relic is out of print and nearly unobtainable. I think 8 years out of print for these relics is sufficient time to warrant a new path to these relics and legendaries.

Examples:
2022 - UR for Greater Cloak of Destiny -> Pharacus's
2021 - UR for Greater Ring of Focus -> Relsa's
2022 - UR for +3 Staff of Focus -> Drake's
2023 - UR for +3 Baton of Focus -> Drue's

not necessarily a fan of a different version of the same relic as it could allow players to stack the bonus from the 2 relic versions.

dave romanin wrote: Develop a multi-year plan that creates a transmutable UR that allows for Relic & Legendary creation where the current relic is out of print and nearly unobtainable. I think 8 years out of print for these relics is sufficient time to warrant a new path to these relics and legendaries.

Examples:
2022 - UR for Greater Cloak of Destiny -> Pharacus's
2021 - UR for Greater Ring of Focus -> Relsa's
2022 - UR for +3 Staff of Focus -> Drake's
2023 - UR for +3 Baton of Focus -> Drue's

not necessarily a fan of a different version of the same relic as it could allow players to stack the bonus from the 2 relic versions.

That last sentence doesn't seem like an actual problem to worry about, as you can currently stack the existing Relic & Legendary (for the Cloak and Ring anyways).

As an alternate suggestion, how about a close-but-not-the-same Relic, with a path to the Legendary that is only slightly more expensive than the original Relic?

Fiddy wrote:

dave romanin wrote: Develop a multi-year plan that creates a transmutable UR that allows for Relic & Legendary creation where the current relic is out of print and nearly unobtainable. I think 8 years out of print for these relics is sufficient time to warrant a new path to these relics and legendaries.

Examples:
2022 - UR for Greater Cloak of Destiny -> Pharacus's
2021 - UR for Greater Ring of Focus -> Relsa's
2022 - UR for +3 Staff of Focus -> Drake's
2023 - UR for +3 Baton of Focus -> Drue's

not necessarily a fan of a different version of the same relic as it could allow players to stack the bonus from the 2 relic versions.

That last sentence doesn't seem like an actual problem to worry about, as you can currently stack the existing Relic & Legendary (for the Cloak and Ring anyways).

As an alternate suggestion, how about a close-but-not-the-same Relic, with a path to the Legendary that is only slightly more expensive than the original Relic?

How about the exact same effect on a different named relic.

Ex Intense ring of focus
+3 damage spells, Healing, (and poly damage?)

Transmutes to supreme ring under a different recipe

Charmed Piece of Eight - slotless coin - 1 / game: Retry a failed save or attack.

Recipe requires 8 pieces of a relic treasure map, monster bits and completion tokens from the Pirate Adventures

dave romanin wrote: Charmed Piece of Eight - slotless coin - 1 / game: Retry a failed save or attack.

Recipe requires 8 pieces of a relic treasure map, monster bits and completion tokens from the Pirate Adventures

Each piece being an eighth of a piece of eight. Transmute to get Piece of Eight.

Piece of Eight with several different effects to choose from when turning in.

I like it Argh Matey!

edwin wrote:

dave romanin wrote: Charmed Piece of Eight - slotless coin - 1 / game: Retry a failed save or attack.

Recipe requires 8 pieces of a relic treasure map, monster bits and completion tokens from the Pirate Adventures

Each piece being an eighth of a piece of eight. Transmute to get Piece of Eight.

Piece of Eight with several different effects to choose from when turning in.

I like it Argh Matey!

Great idea!

I would like to see a multi-year series of treasure enhancing tokens that would add +1 treasure pull to the basic ability of the rare token component. these tokens would only stack with each other, not any other TE's
these tokens could be one per year or several at a time. For example you could have a +1 cudgel transmute into a +1 gilded cudgel D6+1 damage wheel used by all, +1 treasure pull only stacks with gilded tokens. Maybe even a set bonus x different gilded items gain +1 level.
In the end you could have about 20 different tokens that would be about the same as a CoA, but a player would have to dedicate their entire build to get there.