TOPIC: 2024 Transmuted Token Ideas

Please post your ideas for Transmuted 2024 tokens here.

Special Request: When referencing previous tokens, please spell them out rather than using initialisms. Not everyone is familiar with that they mean. If you want to spell them out and then use an initialism in the same paragraph, that's cool, as long as it's clear what you're talking about. E.g., "Charm of Avarice (CoA) is cool token. I hope I can make a CoA soon." is totally cool whereas, "I'd rather see BoGS reprinted than GoGA" is unintelligible to most folks.

Wizard Things!

Starhide was printed in 2015 and has aged poorly. Int still does nothing 6 years later. Charisma gives an extra fop and nothing else.

Likewise Drakes staff of focus was printed in 2015 as well. Although its power still feels about right at least

An awesome Legendary melee weapon for Fighters. Just Fighters.

Ok, maybe let the Paladins and Barbarians use it too, but less awesome for them.

A new ur/relic/legendary necklace for bards - preferably one that doesn't only focus on what they can do for the party. (maybe some sort of large personal damage bonus for a successful monster lore or something, i dono)

A few quotes from a previous discussion on this: (apologies in advance if any of you didn't want to be quoted)

ICL wrote: Even with five players, bard is the most important class at Epic. Since it's unlikely that anything will get taken away, improving bard is just improving what is arguably the best class in the game. Bardsong is constraining because it's not possible for something else to be competitive to it without bard becoming vastly more powerful. While there are things can give bard to move the chess pieces around or that can make lower end bards better like a melee instrument at rare for people who don't have UR+, bard is already at a maxed out state.

If Songbird is already better than Stu's, Valhalla, Champion, Sweetwoods, Charm Necklace, then what can exist that people will want to run that doesn't just further imbalance the class?

Now, I crave variety and would play other things just to play other things when I didn't have any group pressure to conform, like on a Play Against Type run or with just my group when planning ahead or solo. But, there's way too much pressure on bard to conform to party optimization in a way that other classes don't have to suffer from. Someone isn't really going to notice that my heal bonus is "only" 24 and not 30 in the way that someone will notice that they somehow lost +1 saves.

I used to think bard would suit me well. I'd have all of these options other classes didn't. After playing it, I find it one of the most boring classes as it has so much pressure to do optimal things and the variety of options really isn't all that interesting as it's not like my spell built bard will suddenly decide meleeing is worthwhile or my hammer bard cares that much about Sonic Dart or whatever.

Picc wrote: Imo the problem is the bard doesn't have a climactic of personal glory. All the other classes have an I'm awsome moment, the bard creates a background of everyone else is awsome.

A Legendary transmute chain for gloves that gives a whole pile of DEX. I know of a Cleric or two that would like to throw a Thor's and that feels like something that should be moderately available in a high end build...

Maybe the time has past for it, but I'll still put my hat in the ring for something to do with Ioun Stone Silver/Gold/Platinum nuggets. I believe I saw an idea of a "Grunnel's Mining Sack" going around at one point.

Dex and str gloves transmute chain building off the “expert” completion token

UR: Master gloves: +2 str, +2 Dex
Relic: High Master gloves: +3 str, +3 Dex
Legendary: Grand Master gloves: +5 str, +5 Dex



Ioun stone legendary transmute chain
UR: IS Iron bar
2AC and +3 will

Relic IS steel bar
+2 AC, +3 saves

Legendary: IS Adamantium Bar
+4 AC, +4 saves

+3 Primary Blade
-Lower damage wheel (3,5,7,11) (yes that is lower than a +3 weapon should have - it is going off the math pun still) - every hit heroically inspires the wielder to heal 3 hp, on a natural 20, wielder heals 1/2 of their max hp.
-FoB compatible - usable by all classes except wizards

Eratosthene's +5 Razor
-Still lowish damage wheel (7,7,7,11,11, 23) - heals wielder 3 hp each hit, crits on a 19 or 20, all crits fully heal the wielder to max hp
-FoB compatible - usable by all melee classes

I wanna expand on @Endgame's Idea a bit

UR: Bar Brawler's Drinking Gloves
+2 str, +2 Dex,
+1 Heal with Common, Uncommon Potions

Relic: Gloves of the Tipsy Fighter
+3 str, +3 Dex
(1/Room) Double Healing with Common, Uncommon, rare potions
1/Round May drink a potion as a free action

Legendary: Gloves of the Drunken Master
+5 str, +5 Dex
Double Healing with all potions (maybe non-exalted)
1/Round May drink potions as a free action
1/Room may drink rare or lower potion without turning it in

+3 Sword or Life Stealing

Any time the wielder of this weapon successfully hits and damages an enemy with this weapon, the wielder heals 3 HP

This would likely require a functional reprint of one of the "blood" items to start of the transmute (+1 Blood Mace, +1 Drow Blood Mace, +1 Drow Blood Sword, or +2 Deadly Drow Blood Mace). Maybe a transmute path that was a rare "blood" item + any other UR weapon.

I am still very desirous of a Greaves transmute that uses "points" from past greaves. I know it was on the list last year then got boiled down to a UR. But I'd still like to see something come from all the greaves many have collected over the years.

Same with the treasure box amulets. Something that can be transmuted based on "points" from amulets of years past.

Concerning stats for these kind of tokens? Not a clue.

Casey Wren wrote: Same with the treasure box amulets. Something that can be transmuted based on "points" from amulets of years past.

How about this?
+3 Amulet of Protection
4*
+3 AC
+3 All saves

Uses Treasure Box Rare neck(s) as an ingredient