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2024 Transmuted Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 1 day ago #1

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2024 Transmuted Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 1 day ago #2

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I enjoy the flavor text!

Belt of Beads I still personally am feeling super heavy bead fatigue and would rather see something other than a bead expander. At the very least wrist and waist slots have been close in power, so I think this should drop at least drop to +2, +3, +4 to not creep up the power of a slot expander. A +4 bead legendary I think is still plenty more powerful than the special item "Orion's Belt" and a +3 relic would be on par.

Savage Sword getting a new ability is cool, I think we should aim for something different if its meant to be a fighter capstone. As their legendary necklace already expands the crit-range of 1-handed swords to 19-20. So it feels like those two don't synergize very well. I was a big fan of the sundering effect mentioned previously.

Bow of Biting: Design is overall good, I'd still like to see fighter on the legendary and bard on the relic so they have more options available to them.

The rest of the items are looking great
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2024 Transmuted Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 1 day ago #3

Impy wrote: I enjoy the flavor text!

Belt of Beads I still personally am feeling super heavy bead fatigue and would rather see something other than a bead expander. At the very least wrist and waist slots have been close in power, so I think this should drop at least drop to +2, +3, +4 to not creep up the power of a slot expander. A +4 bead legendary I think is still plenty more powerful than the special item "Orion's Belt" and a +3 relic would be on par.

Savage Sword getting a new ability is cool, I think we should aim for something different if its meant to be a fighter capstone. As their legendary necklace already expands the crit-range of 1-handed swords to 19-20. So it feels like those two don't synergize very well. I was a big fan of the sundering effect mentioned previously.

Bow of Biting: Design is overall good, I'd still like to see fighter on the legendary and bard on the relic so they have more options available to them.

The rest of the items are looking great


I agree with all of these points. +1 at current the UR outclasses Orion's Relic and my Bard would love the relic bow.
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2024 Transmuted Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 1 day ago #4

I agree with what Impy and Kusig said, especially about the Savage Sword.

Critting on 19-20 is cool, but most Fighters going for a transmute sword will likely have Viv's, which already give a 19-20 crit range. I mentioned this idea on the Ultra Rare thread before, but I still think reducing the damage some on the Savage Sword line in exchange for a sundering effect that reduces target AC would be fun, and I know many players who would love it ^^

Belt of Beads may need some consideration but I'll leave that to others. I personally think we could maybe use a year off from slot expanded transmutes. Perhaps we could replace it with a weapon to have a year of weapon transmutes?

All the other transmutes look good to me!
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2024 Transmuted Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 1 day ago #5

A year off from more slot expanders might be nice, but if we must have it, I'm glad you moved it to the waist slot. Still a tough decision, but if it's going to be the only bead slot expander we have for a while, I'd rather have it there.

I will admit that a lot of good beads have come out over the past year, with more to come. Without a slot expander, I have no motivation to go after any of them. Right now, I'm not even transmuting for the bead relic or legendary. It's a good token, I just have no room for it.

Really would like to see more love for the fighter and have them added to the bow. Adding Bard at the relic level also seems like a positive change.
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2024 Transmuted Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 1 day ago #6

Jeff, beads seem like a pretty powerful slot, is 3/4/5 a bit too much for the slot expander? Maybe 2/3/4 or 2/3/5 instead? Although, my recommendation is to avoid slot expander transmutes in general, and replace the Relic/Legendary with something else.
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2024 Transmuted Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 1 day ago #7

Mike Steele wrote: Jeff, beads seem like a pretty powerful slot, is 3/4/5 a bit too much for the slot expander? Maybe 2/3/4 or 2/3/5 instead? Although, my recommendation is to avoid slot expander transmutes in general, and replace the Relic/Legendary with something else.

+1. I’m pretty sure that 2 beads still ends up being on par or better than Orions when you start looking at what you can put in those slots.
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2024 Transmuted Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 1 day ago #8

I agree with the other comments so far. I think the Legendary sword is better but agree that it should synergize with the necklace. Maybe something no other class can do? Fighter doesn't have much for special abilities so it would be cool if their sword added something neat.

I think the waist slot is better for a new slot expander but would also be happy if we had something completely different.
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2024 Transmuted Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 1 day ago #9

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Mike Steele wrote: Jeff, beads seem like a pretty powerful slot, is 3/4/5 a bit too much for the slot expander? Maybe 2/3/4 or 2/3/5 instead? Although, my recommendation is to avoid slot expander transmutes in general, and replace the Relic/Legendary with something else.

+1. I’m pretty sure that 2 beads still ends up being on par or better than Orions when you start looking at what you can put in those slots.


Particularly when you consider the first 3 will be locked with TEs very soon (at least for most)
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2024 Transmuted Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 1 day ago #10

What about putting x3 damage on a crit (maybe requiring a natural 20) on the fighter sword?
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2024 Transmuted Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 1 day ago #11

OrionW wrote: What about putting x3 damage on a crit (maybe requiring a natural 20) on the fighter sword?


Note that it is fighters. DF has that innately.

Count me among those asking for sundering.
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2024 Transmuted Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 1 day ago #12

Wade Schwendemann (Dr. Uid) wrote:

OrionW wrote: What about putting x3 damage on a crit (maybe requiring a natural 20) on the fighter sword?


Note that it is fighters. DF has that innately.

Count me among those asking for sundering.


Dwarf fighters are in a much better place than fighters so balancing the two at the same time is difficult. With that said Sundering could be a cool ability to.
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