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2024 Transmuted Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 2 months ago #13

Please, no belt slot for the Bead expander.
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2024 Transmuted Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 2 months ago #14

OrionW wrote:

Wade Schwendemann (Dr. Uid) wrote:

OrionW wrote: What about putting x3 damage on a crit (maybe requiring a natural 20) on the fighter sword?


Note that it is fighters. DF has that innately.

Count me among those asking for sundering.


Dwarf fighters are in a much better place than fighters so balancing the two at the same time is difficult. With that said Sundering could be a cool ability to.


Sundering is an awesome ability, our two fighters have been using it since it came out.
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2024 Transmuted Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 2 months ago #15

I agree that the sword would be more appealing if it didn't overlap with the other Fighter exclusive legendary. Sundering is the most interesting option, heal on hit/crit could also be fitting. I tried to track down other 'on-hit' effects, and the only other things I found were bonuses against certain enemy types, which I don't think would make sense on a legendary. There is also the Scepter of Might affect tokendb.com/token/2-scepter-of-might/ , but that seems a lot harder to track than sundering.
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2024 Transmuted Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 2 months ago #16

I commented on the UR thread about the belt of beads. Copied here for convenience:

Belt of Beads: Based on the bead power levels, this kind of outclasses Orion's (a relic). It only gets better and better as you go up the upgrade chain. This, plus stronghold, plus marks, plus spirit pets is a ton of new slots and I feel like folks are having things they just recently got outclasses quickly. For example, there's the proposed +10 strength mythic belt. Will that compete with 5 beads? Based on iouns/charms...I *think* it might be outclasses already. If beads are more powerful, I'd love to see this be a slot where we have to make hard choices. If you see this as table-stakes for mythic, then it's probably better to be in the bracer slot and expandable through followers.
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2024 Transmuted Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 2 months ago #17

ini wrote: I commented on the UR thread about the belt of beads. Copied here for convenience:

Belt of Beads: Based on the bead power levels, this kind of outclasses Orion's (a relic). It only gets better and better as you go up the upgrade chain. This, plus stronghold, plus marks, plus spirit pets is a ton of new slots and I feel like folks are having things they just recently got outclasses quickly. For example, there's the proposed +10 strength mythic belt. Will that compete with 5 beads? Based on iouns/charms...I *think* it might be outclasses already. If beads are more powerful, I'd love to see this be a slot where we have to make hard choices. If you see this as table-stakes for mythic, then it's probably better to be in the bracer slot and expandable through followers.


This actually is a hard choice for me. No followers give me and extra waist slot, and I have + 7 giant STR belt, or I can have 4 or 5 extra beads…. That’s a lot of STR for my paladin and the beads may help it a bit but they don’t have the STR there so I’d have to choose… more beads or my STR. This will actually be worse for me when mythic I come and that goes to + 10.. so it’s a really hard choice for me.
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2024 Transmuted Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 2 months ago #18

Sounds like Shog stocks are going to rise..
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2024 Transmuted Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 2 months ago #19

True hero of time (THOT) wrote: Sounds like Shog stocks are going to rise..

Shog is rare Belt only.
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2024 Transmuted Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 2 months ago #20

Oh.
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2024 Transmuted Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 2 months ago #21

Impy wrote: I enjoy the flavor text!

Belt of Beads I still personally am feeling super heavy bead fatigue and would rather see something other than a bead expander. At the very least wrist and waist slots have been close in power, so I think this should drop at least drop to +2, +3, +4 to not creep up the power of a slot expander. A +4 bead legendary I think is still plenty more powerful than the special item "Orion's Belt" and a +3 relic would be on par.

Savage Sword getting a new ability is cool, I think we should aim for something different if its meant to be a fighter capstone. As their legendary necklace already expands the crit-range of 1-handed swords to 19-20. So it feels like those two don't synergize very well. I was a big fan of the sundering effect mentioned previously.

Bow of Biting: Design is overall good, I'd still like to see fighter on the legendary and bard on the relic so they have more options available to them.

The rest of the items are looking great


+1 all of this.
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2024 Transmuted Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 2 months ago #22

I feel the belt slot bead transmutes are giving away the store.

I think they would be fine at +2 from UR, +3 from Relic, +4 from Legendary.

Consider Relic Belt of Orion that is +2 Ioun and +1 Charm,
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2024 Transmuted Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 2 months ago #23

I’m not sure anyone cares about this, but rare Bracers of Fire that presumably are used in the exalted Bracers of the Inferno transmute are an ingredient in the Legendary Surtr’s Girdle of Fire Giant Strength.
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2024 Transmuted Token Images < Feedback Please! 1 year 2 months ago #24

Matthew Hayward wrote: I’m not sure anyone cares about this, but rare Bracers of Fire that presumably are used in the exalted Bracers of the Inferno transmute are an ingredient in the Legendary Surtr’s Girdle of Fire Giant Strength.

In one of the safehold threads, Jeff said he wanted to reprint the rares needed for the older legendary stuff.
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