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2024 Ultra Rare Token Images < SUPER FINAL IMAGES ! 11 months 3 weeks ago #25

OrionW wrote: Wings of wrath is a great item stat wise now, but doesn’t feel very wrathful. I preferred a few of the other options more thematically, but more folks will probably be interested in saves.


Maybe Lucky Wings is more appropriate now. :)
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2024 Ultra Rare Token Images < SUPER FINAL IMAGES ! 11 months 3 weeks ago #26

The Death Knight Shield is missing the set-bonus URL subtext.

Phil
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2024 Ultra Rare Token Images < SUPER FINAL IMAGES ! 11 months 3 weeks ago #27

I'm glad the Wings of Wrath is back to a +saves primary effect.

I would suggest lowering the bonus to +2 to saves, otherwise it's just better than the various +3 to save UR cloaks (Dougal's Cloak of Stars, Cloak of Destiny, and sort-of Lucky Cloak which gets a set bonus upside).

Alternatively it could get some of restriction, like a class based restriction, or perhaps a minimum DEX requirement.
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2024 Ultra Rare Token Images < SUPER FINAL IMAGES ! 11 months 3 weeks ago #28

Libram of Looting: The token wording is different than the 2011 and 2017 versions which say:

"Rogue Test: If successful, player may take token & look at hint"
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2024 Ultra Rare Token Images < SUPER FINAL IMAGES ! 11 months 3 weeks ago #29

2017 Lenses of the Fae say: "...Incorporeal monster"

Whereas the reprint says: "...Incorporeal creature"
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2024 Ultra Rare Token Images < SUPER FINAL IMAGES ! 11 months 3 weeks ago #30

Endgame wrote:

NightGod wrote:

Endgame wrote:

NightGod wrote: Wings of Wrath is just a Lucky Cloak with the "leap" ability added.

Feels bad making a token that will still be available as a PYP up until this gets printed that's just a straight upgrade. +2 saves with leap seems better at avoiding creep

If it goes to +2 saves, I think the leap could be 1/room instead of 1/game. In fact, I like that as the, uhh, extra final version?

That's then essentially a flat upgrade to the Fizzy Lifting Pack (fly at least theoretically has some additional utility vs "leap", but realistically in TD there's not really any difference)

Maybe that's OK? Is there a Fizzy Lifting Pack fanclub that I'm not aware of? I've heard people say it's not powerful enough before, so maybe +2 saves would do it?


I think Gnomish Fizzy Lifting pack is in the discussion for "worst UR ever" - but a lot of that is how people reacted to the difference between what the token says "Fly for 1 rd. once per combat (Back slot)" and what the token actually does, which is:

"As a Free Action once per combat, the wearer may use a melee weapon (using melee combat modifiers) to attack flying or levitating monsters. It allows a character to leap up, attack, and land safely back in the same spot from which it took off. This item neither impairs nor improves the ability to perform normal attacks or spell castings. The effect lasts one round."

Which bummed people out because "Fly" seems very unrestricted, but you can't use the pack to (for example) get across a chasm between some enemy archers and yourself.

It probably didn't help that it came out the same year as the Pharacus cloak transmute, and a year before OG Cloak of Shadowskin either and was competing with those for PYP back slot purchases.

Anyway - the point is Gnomish Fizzy Lifting Pack as it is would probably not be a very appealing PYP.
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2024 Ultra Rare Token Images < SUPER FINAL IMAGES ! 11 months 3 weeks ago #31

I missed most of the Discussion. All looks cool I'm sure others have pointed out things.

One Day would like to see Charm of the Gunslinger allowing 2 1-handed ranged weapons dual wielding. Also if LVL 6+7 is on the horizon consider adding this for Ranger classes.

Also to go with this, we need better than common 1-handed ranged weapons that aren't slings .... pistols, golden guns, etc... :)
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2024 Ultra Rare Token Images < SUPER FINAL IMAGES ! 11 months 3 weeks ago #32

Kusig wrote: Are gloves supposed to work with 2 handed ranged weapons?


Yep. One-hand Melee folks got a nice shield and sword this year. This is a little love for the 2H Melee and Missile folks.
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2024 Ultra Rare Token Images < SUPER FINAL IMAGES ! 11 months 3 weeks ago #33

Phil Norton wrote: The Death Knight Shield is missing the set-bonus URL subtext.

Phil


Thank you! Fixed.

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2024 Ultra Rare Token Images < SUPER FINAL IMAGES ! 11 months 3 weeks ago #34

Matthew Hayward wrote: Libram of Looting: The token wording is different than the 2011 and 2017 versions which say:

"Rogue Test: If successful, player may take token & look at hint"


I like the new one a wee bit better...but thanks!
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2024 Ultra Rare Token Images < SUPER FINAL IMAGES ! 11 months 3 weeks ago #35

Matthew Hayward wrote: 2017 Lenses of the Fae say: "...Incorporeal monster"

Whereas the reprint says: "...Incorporeal creature"


Fixed!
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2024 Ultra Rare Token Images < SUPER FINAL IMAGES ! 11 months 3 weeks ago #36

How about this for the Cloak? I am going to go with this one unless folks hate it. It seems like confusing than the weird "attack a flying monster 1/game as a Melee attack" power. This will probably only be grabbed by newbies, but it has a nice look and flavor to it.

Thanks for your patience.

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