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QTR 2024 Beta 1 year 2 months ago #1

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2024 QTR Beta 5
Please have a look and let me know if you see anything that needs to be addressed.

For reference, these are the links seen in Jeff's "final" token images post:
Common
Uncommon
Rare
Ultra Rare
Transmuted
Volunteer and Participation
Special

Notes:
  • We are not at the point where we're discussing recipes, so please don't even look at the 2024 recipe placeholders. If you see an error in the 2023 recipes, please report it.
  • Since we're nearing the end, page and/or column breaks should pretty much be stable--other than in the 2024 recipes section.
  • This is not the time to kvetch about which tokens did or did not get printed or about the wording printed on the tokens. That ship has sailed.
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QTR 2024 Beta 1 year 2 months ago #2

One Boot Billy's Maps is missing option #2

Recipe Option #2

2× Aragonite
2× Elven Bismuth
2× Oil of Enchantment

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QTR 2024 Beta 1 year 2 months ago #3

[Page 6] Charm of the Ancients; Cloak of the Nomad; Crown of Thoth; Death Knight Cloak
[Page 7] Dire Beetle Armor; Flute of the Charmer
[Page 8] Hireling Brewmaster; Hireling Martial Artist; Hireling Oracle; Hireling Scribe
[Page 9] Nomad Armor; Nomad Shield; Oasis Shield; Pants of Shai’s Blessing
[Page 10] Ring of the 3rd Circle; Scarab Armor; Scarab Shield
[Page 11] Snake Priest Boots; Snake Priest Hat; Snake Priest Kilt; Snake Priest Shirt; Turban of the Dunes
In each of the above, the description reads "+X to T saving throw", but should read "+X to T saves" for consistency with the printed text on the token and the 2023 QTR.

[Page 6] Belt of the Beetle; Boots of Brawling; Boots of Shai’s Aid
Alternatively, if going forwards you want to use "saving throw", then these three are still in the old "saves" format.

[Page 9] Nomad Armor, Nomad Shield
Regardless of how the above is changed, the description of these two should use capital-R Reflex.


[Page 8] Hireling Archer; Hireling Brewmaster; Hireling Champion; Hireling Duelist; Hireling Fletcher; Hireling Martial Artist; Hireling Oracle; Hireling Scribe
Should the description of these omit "the [hireling]’s trainee (owner of this token) [gains/deals]" to simplify the wording and match the Underlings, with appropriate modifications to those specific to a mode of combat?

[Page 8] Hireling Champion
If not, "the champion’s trainee (owner of this token) +2 damage" is missing the word "deals".


[Page 8] Kilt of Divine Healing
The first paragraph ends with "any non-fractional way the caster sees fit", but the second ends with "All fractional healing points are dropped", which seems somewhat superfluous if the caster can still only split healing in a non-fractional way.

[Page 9] Mark of the 3rd Tenet
The parenthetical describing what extra Wisdom does is not in grey text, unlike other such instances of extra ability scores.

[Page 9] Omni Orb
The description reads "can be used instead of one transmuted token in certain transmutation recipes", which sounds like it can only be used to replace an Enhanced, Exalted, or Relic in recipes designated by TokenDB. Perhaps replace "one transmuted token" with "certain tokens"?
Additionally, the link to TokenDB goes to the wrong page; it should go to tokendb.com/token/omni-orb/

[Page 9] Ring of Psychic Mastery
Should its interactions with the Skull of Cavadar be mentioned here?

[Page 11] Underling Wizard
Description should be "+3 to Focus".

[Page 24] Miscellaneous Stuff/Focus
"+X Focus" -> "+X to Focus"
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QTR 2024 Beta 1 year 2 months ago #4

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Ho-Yi Fung wrote: [Page 8] Kilt of Divine Healing
The first paragraph ends with "any non-fractional way the caster sees fit", but the second ends with "All fractional healing points are dropped", which seems somewhat superfluous if the caster can still only split healing in a non-fractional way.

First off, thank you for all the great quemments!
To address this specific one, sometimes if I want to really drive home a point, I'll throw in some redundancy. This is one of those occasions.
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QTR 2024 Beta 1 year 2 months ago #5

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The first post has a link to the latest beta update, v4. Please take a look-see.
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QTR 2024 Beta 1 year 2 months ago #6

2023 Recipe differences:
Boaz's Bead of Whispers
PDF: 10x Dwarven Steel
TokenDb: 15x Dwarven Steel

Greater Bead of Whispers
PDF: 15x Dwarven Steel
Tokendb: 10x Dwarven Steel

Vim's Boots of Protection
PDF: 15x Dwarven Steel
Tokendb: 10x Dwarven Steel

Also, tokendb has the Stalker Bead of Skill and the Stalker Bead of Focus listed as 2023 transmutes, not sure if their exclusion from the PDF is intentional or not.

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QTR 2024 Beta 1 year 2 months ago #7

"Ranged" vs "ranged"
Which is correct? 2023 QTR uses "Ranged" (including in the parenthetical for Dexterity modifiers) but PHB and 2024 QTR beta4 use "ranged" (including in the parenthetical for Dexterity modifiers) except for Charm of Horus and Lenses of Ra.

[Page 8] Hireling Archer
Description is missing "when making a ranged attack," (or "Ranged attack", depending on above)

[Page 9] Moon Dagger
[Page 10] Rod of Ra
"sacred" -> "Sacred"

[Page 11] Turban of the Dunes
"saving throws" -> "saves"

[Page 11] Underling Druid
Should "each" be added to the description (i.e., "Cold, Fire, and/or Shock damage inflicted on the equipper of this token is reduced by 5 points each per attack/effect"), or would that just cause more confusion?

[Page 12] Underling Wizard
Should link Focus to appropriate section of QTR; remove "(not scroll or misc. magic items) damage"

[Page 12] New Conditions in 2024/Disease
[Page 15] Snake Priest Set
"Melee" -> "melee"
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QTR 2024 Beta 1 year 2 months ago #8

Pg. 14: Under the Dragonhide set, the underlining of "scale" in Dragonscale went awry. Also, the word "bonuses" near the end is missing an "s".

(Nit picking): Pg. 3: You are calling them "Conversion Initials", yet "Bar" is one of the options. Should the terms "Trade goods" and "Trade item" be changed to "Trade Token(s)" to be consistent with the web site, or at least be consistent within this paragraph?

Everywhere: The colors used for transmutes and hyperlinks are too close to each other.

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QTR 2024 Beta 1 year 2 months ago #9

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The first post has a link to the latest beta update, v5. Please take a look and let me know if there's anything else that needs to be tweaked--other than 2024 recipes.
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QTR 2024 Beta 1 year 2 months ago #10

Since neither Diseased nor Poisoned are "new conditions" but new takes on existing conditions, would it make more sense to say:

Conditions Updates for 2024

Do these conditions updates affect monsters as well?

... remove Diseased and Poisoned, respectively?

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QTR 2024 Beta 1 year 2 months ago #11

Pg. 6 : "Charm of Shared Recovery" seems to cut off at the end,

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QTR 2024 Beta 1 year 2 months ago #12

Followers, Hirelings, Underlings, and Stewards
All Followers and Follower Steward end with "see truedungeon.com/safehold for details on how Followers work".

All Hirelings end with "for details on how Hirelings work, see truedungeon.com/safehold".
Hireling Steward ends with "see truedungeon.com/safehold for details on how Hirelings work".

Underling Cleric, Underling Barbarian, and Underling Steward end with "for details on how Underlings work, see truedungeon.com/safehold"
The other six Underlings end with "see truedungeon.com/safehold for details on how Underlings work"

Can these be standardised?


[Page 5] +2 Mystic Staff of the Ancients; Asp Runestone
"poison" -> "Poison"

[Page 6] Boots of Brawling
"To hit" -> "To Hit"

[Page 12] Underling Wizard
Looks like it's been reverted back to say Spell damage instead of Focus, putting it at odds with the image on the page 3 of the Safehold doc last updated 09 March. Is this an intentional change, or an accidental revert?
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