TOPIC: Ring of the Fifth Circle Slotless?

Mike Steele wrote:

Dave wrote:

balthasar wrote: What if the transmuted item counts as a ring, but adds 1 or more ring slots?

Was just thinking the same thing. It would have to be worded something like "Wearer may equip up to 4 rings." That's kind of the only way to make it not conflict with the Hand, Gloves or Charm of Glory, which limit you to 3 rings. That would also make it highly desirable, because you could equip it and also free up a neck, hand or charm slot if you currently use a Glory item.

If you did something like that, you might as well just say it is slotless, because in essence that's what it would be.

Just spitballing. honestly, I'd prefer it stay a ring slot and force people to make choices. I know people want it to be more powerful, or worth more money, to protect an 'investment, though.

Mike Steele wrote: Do we know yet if the Ring of the Fifth Circle (and the transmuted token in 5 years) is Slotless or not?

Ring of the 5th Circle is not slotless.
Boots of the Four Winds are not slotless.
Kilt of Dungeonbane is not slotless.
Supreme Ring of Elemental Command is not slotless.

Don't hold your breath for the combined Ring of Concentric Circles (not the final name) to be slotless.
#DreamCrusher

Druegar wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: Do we know yet if the Ring of the Fifth Circle (and the transmuted token in 5 years) is Slotless or not?

Ring of the 5th Circle is not slotless.
Boots of the Four Winds are not slotless.
Kilt of Dungeonbane is not slotless.
Supreme Ring of Elemental Command is not slotless.

Don't hold your breath for the combined Ring of Concentric Circles (not the final name) to be slotless.
#DreamCrusher

Very true, but one of those doesn't quite fit with the others, since three of those were transmuted via URs bought each year, and the other is transmuted via Premium tokens from token orders each year.

A better comparison would be:

Rod of Seven Parts is Slotless
Skull of Cavadar is Slotless
Ring of Fifth Circle Final Transmute is Not Slotless

When you click the link in tokendb, the one that takes you to this truedungeon.com/multi-year , it talks about the tokens Druegar mentioned. The transmuted Ring is also going to be the start of a new set, so comparing it to the Skull and Rod which are Grand Eldritch items may not be accurate either.

balthasar wrote: When you click the link in tokendb, the one that takes you to this truedungeon.com/multi-year , it talks about the tokens Druegar mentioned. The transmuted Ring is also going to be the start of a new set, so comparing it to the Skull and Rod which are Grand Eldritch items may not be accurate either.

Do we know it will be the start of a new set? The shirt (Arcanum) will be done before the Ring. I would think the Ring transmute might be part of the Arcanum set, but not certain.

balthasar wrote: When you click the link in tokendb, the one that takes you to this truedungeon.com/multi-year , it talks about the tokens Druegar mentioned. The transmuted Ring is also going to be the start of a new set, so comparing it to the Skull and Rod which are Grand Eldritch items may not be accurate either.

Sure, True Dungeon always has the option of making changes along the way. I was just pointing out the precedent was that the multi-year transmutes from token purchases has always been slotted and the multi-year transmutes from premium tokens have always been slotless. There's certainly no requirement for True Dungeon to follow that precedent.

Technically, the Transmuted Shirt is going to be the start of the new Arcane set, the Ring will be the second token in it.

Mike Steele wrote:
Technically, the Transmuted Shirt is going to be the start of the new Arcane set, the Ring will be the second token in it.

If you are going to 'technically' someone please get the technically correct. Arcane Set is already a set. truedungeon.com/sets
Arcanum is the new set name.
truedungeon.com/multi-year-tokens
I am not certain if we know the ring is part of that set, but you could be correct.

jedibcg wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:
Technically, the Transmuted Shirt is going to be the start of the new Arcane set, the Ring will be the second token in it.

If you are going to 'technically' someone please get the technically correct. Arcane Set is already a set. truedungeon.com/sets
Arcanum is the new set name.
truedungeon.com/multi-year-tokens
I am not certain if we know the ring is part of that set, but you could be correct.

Ouch, that's a bit prickly. I wasn't trying to be dismissive, just mentioning that the Shirt is first out of the gate. Point taken on the Arcanum name.

Mike Steele wrote:

Druegar wrote:

Mike Steele wrote: Do we know yet if the Ring of the Fifth Circle (and the transmuted token in 5 years) is Slotless or not?

Ring of the 5th Circle is not slotless.
Boots of the Four Winds are not slotless.
Kilt of Dungeonbane is not slotless.
Supreme Ring of Elemental Command is not slotless.

Don't hold your breath for the combined Ring of Concentric Circles (not the final name) to be slotless.
#DreamCrusher

Very true, but one of those doesn't quite fit with the others, since three of those were transmuted via URs bought each year, and the other is transmuted via Premium tokens from token orders each year.

A better comparison would be:

Rod of Seven Parts is Slotless
Skull of Cavadar is Slotless
Ring of Fifth Circle Final Transmute is Not Slotless

An even better comparison would be:

Rod of Seven Parts makes use of the same slot as its components
Skull of Cavadar makes use of the same slot as its components
Ring of Fifth Circle Final Transmute makes use of the same slot as its components

Fiddy wrote: Rod of Seven Parts makes use of the same slot as its components
Skull of Cavadar makes use of the same slot as its components
Ring of Fifth Circle Final Transmute makes use of the same slot as its components

You beat me to it Fiddy!

Pull the gems out of each ring and fit them into a gauntlet of some sort for the gloves slot? Who knows what creative things TPTB might come up with.

Seems premature to be too concerned about what the final transmute will end up being. We don't know what the powers on the other rings will be (though I'm betting it's going to be all defensively focused, so one for each save and one for HP).

If the boosts on the other rings are enough, the final piece could still edge out some nightmare options at least for cleric/bard/dwarf, possibly others. Much like the kilts, you're going to sit on a few tokens you won't be equipping for a few years until the merge happens and you can incorporate that power.

Plenty of time to argue in 4ish years in the token design threads for the final.

I'm just excited the we're getting a set bonus 2 years sooner then expected on the usual 7 year model. That said I hope the complete arcane set has at least one slotless Transmuted-Grand Arcane item.

Or perhaps a feature of the set could be +1 ring per bonus level similar to the eldritch sets +damage/healing per bonus level.