TOPIC: UPDATED! More Info on 4-Year Patron Token - Get Your Name on a Token!

Rob F wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

Rob F wrote:

Tyraël The Just wrote:

Rob F wrote:

Tyraël The Just wrote:

macxdmg wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

macxdmg wrote: I'm sure the "Ring of the Arcanum" or "Circle Ring of the Arcanum" is going to be the name per the previous announcements, or has that changed?

Per the first post, it's Ring of the Sacred Circle now.

Well that's what is in the picture, which is why I asked for clarification of previous notice of direction, I believe Druegar mentioned something in the 2023 token design threads specifically that all Arcanum would have Arcanum in their name, unlike the Eldritch.

I also notice soulforged has been removed, this makes me quite sad. Now I just have to find out if it will say "Crafted by Goblins" if I ask, or if it will have "Macxdmg" or like seriously my name were I to own the components and turn them all in with a "Crafted by " request. "Fairies" or "Horse Ghosts" should also be options, maybe "Kvothe" or "Elminster", mmmm, I see a potential issue. Fairies, Horse Ghosts, Goblins and Squirrel on a Stick are generic enough to not require IP licensing, can generic "Crafted by" be considered still? Maybe have a checkbox of pre-approved non-personal named "Crafted by" and a way to submit for approval for "Souls of Elves" or "Rainbows and Glitter"?

"Crafted by: Mi Amore"

Please let us use lettering outside of US Standard English, I'm thinking ümlauts and eñe's in latin based alphabets, though Kanji or Chinese characters would be very progressive.

That makes me really bummed, I was really excited to own my own soul forged token.. makes it much less desirable.

If you don't ever sell, trade, or give it away I would say it's soulforged to you. And if you are ever done playing TD you can easily destroy it so no one else can use it.

Its not about destroying something so no one else can use it. Personally I like the idea of being able to have a soul forged token. why does that have to mean something negative ?

I guess I don't understand your definition of soulforged. Prior soulforged Tokens were customized to the individual players and no one else could use the Token but that player. If this new Mark has your custom name on it, a unique image, and you never let anyone else use it then.... it's soulforged to you. Which I don't think is negative at all. TD has always been about playing the game your way. If you don't want to let anyone else use the Token then don't, if you change your mind down the road then you can sell,trade, or give it to someone.

I think he's saying that he wants an actual soul forged token, which I can understand. You can pretend any token is soul forged and never sell it or trade it away, but that doesn't make it actually soul forged.

Even though this token was changed, I do hope the soul forged concept is revisited in the future. Maybe it could be a bit more powerful than the average token of that rarity to make up for being soul forged.

Well if TD is going to customize the wording on the Token I don't see why they couldn't just use "Soulforged to: ....." For the folks that wanted it to say that. Maybe that complicates things from a printing standpoint, I don't know.

That's a good idea.

macxdmg wrote: something in the 2023 token design threads specifically that all Arcanum would have Arcanum in their name, unlike the Eldritch.

That may have been the plan at the time, but plans sometimes change. And by "sometimes" I mean often. Is a slight name change causing tsuris to some folks?

Druegar wrote:

macxdmg wrote: something in the 2023 token design threads specifically that all Arcanum would have Arcanum in their name, unlike the Eldritch.

That may have been the plan at the time, but plans sometimes change. And by "sometimes" I mean often. Is a slight name change causing tsuris to some folks?

I like the name change. Naming all of them Arcanum seemed a bit boring.

Druegar wrote:

macxdmg wrote: something in the 2023 token design threads specifically that all Arcanum would have Arcanum in their name, unlike the Eldritch.

That may have been the plan at the time, but plans sometimes change. And by "sometimes" I mean often. Is a slight name change causing tsuris to some folks?

Pretty much every set other than the Eldritch one have component tokens that have some word shared in their names. So having the Arcanum set actually include the word Arcanum in the token names makes a lot of sense to many of us.

Fiddy wrote:

Druegar wrote:

macxdmg wrote: something in the 2023 token design threads specifically that all Arcanum would have Arcanum in their name, unlike the Eldritch.

That may have been the plan at the time, but plans sometimes change. And by "sometimes" I mean often. Is a slight name change causing tsuris to some folks?

Pretty much every set other than the Eldritch one have component tokens that have some word shared in their names. So having the Arcanum set actually include the word Arcanum in the token names makes a lot of sense to many of us.

I think the dark purple back should convey information that the tokens in the Arcanum set are special and go together.

Endgame wrote:

Fiddy wrote:

Druegar wrote:

macxdmg wrote: something in the 2023 token design threads specifically that all Arcanum would have Arcanum in their name, unlike the Eldritch.

That may have been the plan at the time, but plans sometimes change. And by "sometimes" I mean often. Is a slight name change causing tsuris to some folks?

Pretty much every set other than the Eldritch one have component tokens that have some word shared in their names. So having the Arcanum set actually include the word Arcanum in the token names makes a lot of sense to many of us.

I think the dark purple back should convey information that the tokens in the Arcanum set are special and go together.

Given the fairly recent discussions about adding rarity indicators to C/UC/R other than color, I'd say relying solely on color to convey information may not be the best idea.

Druegar wrote:

macxdmg wrote:

That may have been the plan at the time, but plans sometimes change. And by "sometimes" I mean often. Is a slight name change causing tsuris to some folks?

How long have you been playing?

I'm bummed to see the change from soulforged to crafted by.

It would be nice if patrons could customize the top line so it didn't have to say "crafted by", or omit that line altogether.

dokkaebi wrote: I'm bummed to see the change from soulforged to crafted by.

It would be nice if patrons could customize the top line so it didn't have to say "crafted by", or omit that line altogether.

From the current wording it looks like the crafted by is optional. I wouldn't be opposed to the option to have it soulforged for those who still want that. Since the wording is custom on them all I wonder if it would be difficult to manage.

I'm all in favor of letting people label their token as soulforged. But would someone who wants that option explain to me the upside? If you can have your name on the token and your own unique mark, why limit it to being soulforged (I'm talking about actual soulforging as opposed to simply changing the wording on the token)?

If it is soulforged, you can't loan it to others for use, give it as a (usable) gift to a friend or relative, sell it/raffle it/donate it in the future as a usable token. And it will have the exact same power as all of the other non-soulforged tokens.

My understanding is that the original soulforged tokens were given as thank yous to certain players. They were very powerful and uniquely crafted. Completely understandable that TPTB didn't want a free token with that level of power simply being sold off (in the useable form).

But here, it is part of the Patron level token purchase. That is the only way to get the Fragments (or buy them on the secondary market/auction). And they are not unique (power-wise) or uber-powerful.

Not trying to criticize those who want the token to say (or actually be) soulforged, just generally looking for the reason(s) since the situation regarding these tokens is so different from the original soulforged tokens.

Manimal wrote: I'm all in favor of letting people label their token as soulforged. But would someone who wants that option explain to me the upside? If you can have your name on the token and your own unique mark, why limit it to being soulforged (I'm talking about actual soulforging as opposed to simply changing the wording on the token)?

If it is soulforged, you can't loan it to others for use, give it as a (usable) gift to a friend or relative, sell it/raffle it/donate it in the future as a usable token. And it will have the exact same power as all of the other non-soulforged tokens.

My understanding is that the original soulforged tokens were given as thank yous to certain players. They were very powerful and uniquely crafted. Completely understandable that TPTB didn't want a free token with that level of power simply being sold off (in the useable form).

But here, it is part of the Patron level token purchase. That is the only way to get the Fragments (or buy them on the secondary market/auction). And they are not unique (power-wise) or uber-powerful.

Not trying to criticize those who want the token to say (or actually be) soulforged, just generally looking for the reason(s) since the situation regarding these tokens is so different from the original soulforged tokens.

The original Soul Forged tokens were Artifacts, and they were created from Arcane Recipe Tokens (plus lots of other tokens) which were either found in the Treasure Boxes or auctioned for GP at the True Dungeon auctions.

Druegar wrote: Is a slight name change causing tsuris to some folks?

lazlo_hollyfeld1985 wrote: How long have you been playing?

Touché!