TOPIC: What We Know So Far... (Mystery token/Relic Fragments)

Steven wrote:

TJRat wrote: I don't think there's any doubt about the identity now. Just what powers it holds.

I’m missing something then. It looks like it’s be_l ,so it can’t be belt any more. I know Bell was proposed a few times

They could be toying with our expectations a bit by only partially revealing the "t" at the end.

Steven wrote: see how they love to throw curveballs magically enhanced with a slider and a change-up and somehow a touch of a fastball in there

Congrats, Steve... you have summed up True Dungeon's nefarious mastermind strategy in one sentence.

Tobin Blake wrote: I was reading this and wanted to add something that prompted a recollection of something: One of the stars in the constellation "Orion's Belt" is called "Alnilam", which is related to the word "nilam" which means "Sapphire" in Arabic.

The mention of the sapphire necklace token made me think of this. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I had thought that too, and then figured that was probably too much of a stretch, and who else but a total nerd would put those etymological clues together? (Hi Tobin! Love ya, Nerd!) ... but I will note that the Ring of Riches hiding the Orin's Belt clue is sitting on a shelf with not one, but TWO (maybe even three) Sapphire Necklaces.

Still probably too much of a stretch to think that's an intentional clue... I can't imagine the TD crew going through all of this to, say... give us another cool 1000 GP token. Nor are they cruel enough to include a Sapphire Necklace as part of the transmute recipe ('cause I've heard that one questionable Rogue has a near-monopoly on them.) Plus that token's been OOP for a decade, and that wouldn't be fair.

Though, since we're stretching things, I figured I'd toss out the fact that Orion's belt also hangs his Sword (The Sword Star, Saiph, is just below the stars which form the belt) which may be a clue that this token will boost swordfighting/melee.

Except I'm sure it won't. It will be something which anyone can use... or it's be a real jerk move to get people excited about the transmute and collecting pieces, and then have it a class-restricted item.

Raven wrote:
Except I'm sure it won't. It will be something which anyone can use... or it's be a real jerk move to get people excited about the transmute and collecting pieces, and then have it a class-restricted item.

Be careful, lest we anger the mighty Burrito eating Star-Lord Druegar!

I am really trying hard not to try and make guesses about what the token could be like many have suggested. That way lies only heartbreak. The whole journey has been interesting and enjoyable enough

BUT, a ring of riches in the belt slot, 3 stars = 3 treasure chips and all that...

jpotter wrote: Be careful, lest we anger the mighty burrito eating, dream-crushing, Star-Lord Druegar!

fixed it for ya

Druegar wrote:

Harlax wrote: If he had given us a t, it would be over.

Over?
Oh I think not...!

this makes me very much think are not close to being done even when we see the full token.

jedibcg wrote:

Druegar wrote:

Harlax wrote: If he had given us a t, it would be over.

Over?
Oh I think not...!

this makes me very much think are not close to being done even when we see the full token.

I’m sure that’s so. Even if we know the name, we don’t know where or how to get it.

If it’s a slotless bell, get ready for more discussion about slotless tokens.

Probably not new analysis, but I'm not reading all of this:

1) looks like "Orion's Belt."
2) "piece of a piece" indicates more stuff needed
3) the fact that only 1 of the actors isn't in Clue would seem to be a clue

Raven wrote: Links to Images & Clues & Relevant Web Pages


QTR - the Quick Token Reference Guide was the first place we found a clue about the Mystery Token

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The Relic Recipe Fragment representative token from TDb

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(Note: this was reached by searching the TDb for "Relic Recipe Fragment." It contained this picture, and a clue/poem. That page is no longer available.)


The poem, taken from that (now defunct) page:

Token Database wrote:

In days of yore, quite long before
The humans came to plunder more
A relic forged from goods of trade
By ancient hands the thing was made

Alas, for now, the method’s gone
To craft this fine phenomenon
‘Twas fractured by a hand of bronze
And now it’s just some polygons

When days are long and three stars bright
The Dark Knight comes with special sight
For bringing forth the pieces all
To eldest place before the fall

So gather now your goods abound
And bring them where the start be found
A myst’ry now that was foretold
With time, that knowledge shall unfold

All 6 Relic Recipe Fragments, with key to making them into a single “whole” map

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Picc's suggested naming convention for the tokens (with convenient side-bar riddle!)

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Druegar’s response to suggested naming conventions… later found to be laced with Teal dots

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The “Enhance” Clue

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9-square of Clue stars, found in a 1-pixel link on TDb entry for Druegar Death Die

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Click here for a list of the actors ID'd in the picture above:

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(right-left, top-bottom)
Martin Mull (8/18/43 - ) as Harvey in the 1980 movie Serial.
Madeline Kahn (9/29/42 - 11/3/99) (rest her hilarious soul) as Victoria Bisbane in the 1977 Mel Brooks movie High Anxiety.
Howard Hesseman (2/27/40 - ) as Pete Lassard in the 1985 move Police Academy 2: Their First Assignment.
A promotional shot of Colleen Camp (6/7/53 - )
The great Tim Curry (4/19/46 - ) as Cardinal Richelieu in the 1983 movie 3 Musketeers.
Leslie Ann Warren (8/16/46 - ) in the title role in the 1965 movie Cinderella.
The great Christopher Lloyd (10/22/38 - ) as Commander Kruge in the 1984 move Star Trek III: The Search for Spock.
Eileen Brennan (9/3/32 - 7/28/13) as Genevieve in the 1971 movie The Last Picture Show.
Gordon Jump (not in the movie Clue) (4/1/32 - ) (Born on April Fools Day) as Zack Feldman in the 1973 episode of The Partridge Family "Strike Out King".

Astronomy related links:

The Summer Triangle - Jun 25 (three Stars Bright?)

Solar Eclipse July 2 - July 2

Lunar Eclipse July 16

NewMoon (Aug 1st) aka a "Dark Night" / Special sight?

EarthSky astronomy page, Orion’s Belt - July 30 (which also happens to be the start date for GenCon proper)



A Pirate image Druegar posted in response to "Aaaarg"

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On close examination the hint "Fragments" appears in the bottom left corner of his cloak. There might be more to be found? Or this was posted to lead us to the update on the TDb entry for the fragments... which we'd found by the time we spotted the hidden word.



Updated Token Database entry for "Fragment"

Currently the TDb returns 6 relevant pages, with each Relic Recipe Fragment identified by a different number.

Those pages each contain hidden text (which can be seen if you highlight the text just above the words “Useable by”) and putting together the hidden text from all 6 pages gives the following clue:

Token Database Fragment pages wrote:

If you seek the riches
Ring truth for which to sound
The items that you’ll need
To forge a relic found
Go down for which we’ll lead
A ledge so near the ground

Ring of Riches graphic:

The True Dungeon forum page has an aesthetic surround graphic which includes a ledge at the very bottom. On this ledge, from Left to Right sits: a Ring of Riches, a Wand, and 2 (or 3?) “Sapphire Necklace” UR tokens. The Ring of Riches can be clicked to reach a .png file, which has been changing!

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On July 16(?) or 17:

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On July 18:

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On July 19:

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On July 20:

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