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Wade Schwendemann wrote: Losing the saves is a bummer, but I do think that giving the party +3 to saves once or twice per game is significant, and is FAR better than FoP: Scarab, as you are giving it to 10 people if you'd like.

You also get to use this power after the die is rolled, which is much more powerful.

Raven wrote: Pls forgive me if this has been mentioned /clarified before but:

Ranger Legendary gives “Use Scroll” twice per game vs Relic “Use Druid Scroll”. ... is it intended that our Legendary Ranger can use Wizard scrolls as well?

Quoting Jeff from here truedungeon.com/forum?view=topic&catid=55&id=249929

I wanted to give them a little bit of extra fun -- something they did not get on the character card. So...I hope you like them. The Ranger in 1st edition could cast Wizard and Druid spells so I thought it would be fun to give them a little bit of that...but in an easy manner to manage (i.e., Scrolls). I did not manage to get it done for the Paladin, but her Special Powers are pretty cool to augment as is.

So, yes I think giving Rangers access to Wizard scrolls is on purpose.

Milambus (Jake) wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote: Losing the saves is a bummer, but I do think that giving the party +3 to saves once or twice per game is significant, and is FAR better than FoP: Scarab, as you are giving it to 10 people if you'd like.

You also get to use this power after the die is rolled, which is much more powerful.

Not to make the power worse, but where are you seeing this?

I saw a note about using it for either the whole party or an individual.

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

Milambus (Jake) wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote: Losing the saves is a bummer, but I do think that giving the party +3 to saves once or twice per game is significant, and is FAR better than FoP: Scarab, as you are giving it to 10 people if you'd like.

You also get to use this power after the die is rolled, which is much more powerful.

Not to make the power worse, but where are you seeing this?

I saw a note about using it for either the whole party or an individual.

I was under the impression that it was the same as fop:scarab, and had to be done ahead of time. Although the grace ability doesn't specifically say this as it does on fop:scarab.

I also am not quite sure I understand the statement that it is far superior to fop:scarab. Can fop:scarab not be used on group save rolls? I don't see anything in the description or tokendb that indicates that to me. the description says "add +3 to any saving throw"

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

Milambus (Jake) wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote: Losing the saves is a bummer, but I do think that giving the party +3 to saves once or twice per game is significant, and is FAR better than FoP: Scarab, as you are giving it to 10 people if you'd like.

You also get to use this power after the die is rolled, which is much more powerful.

Not to make the power worse, but where are you seeing this?

I saw a note about using it for either the whole party or an individual.

Its possible that I misread/misunderstood or just because said limitation was not on the token I assumed it.

So, lets make that a question rather than a statement.

Can Grace be invoked after the die is rolled?

FiannaTiger wrote: characters per line in current.
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Don't forget, it's not just character count. Line breaks play a HUGE role in how many words can fit.

Milambus (Jake) wrote: Can Grace be invoked after the die is rolled?

No. It must be declared first.

Matthew Hayward wrote: I was thinking it might be nice to juice up the Druid and Ranger legendaries (Druid can be fixed in TDb) with:

Counts as an eldrtich set piece.

As most everyone with these tokens is probably is already at 2 setpieces, that amounts to +1 to damage and +2 to healing spells, and is a callback to when these classes were more attuned to eldritch than the rest.

I like the idea in theory. I've been doing a lot of analysis on Iktomi's and how it stacks up to this year's Ava's & Ralson's. I don't really think the gap is that large, but there is a gap.

Since we're not done tweaking yet, I don't think anything drastic has to be done, especially since it seems your proposal will upset a subset of the player-base. The idea is definitely a neat one, though...as it is a callback to how Eldritch used to work.

Milambus (Jake) wrote: Quoting myself!

Milambus (Jake) wrote: Ranger Necklaces:
Is there a reason its +Con and not +Dex on a ranged Ranger item?

Change the Necklaces to +Dex and change Cloak of the Elm to:
+3 to saves. Range: +2 Dex.

This would put a cloak of Destiny equivalent into print for new players, and give ranged Rangers a stat that they want.

This idea seems good. Or just making it +3 CON, Rangers get +1 regen/room.

I can't find whose idea the regen was, but wanted to state clearly that it wasn't mine.

Druegar wrote:

FiannaTiger wrote: characters per line in current.
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Don't forget, it's not just character count. Line breaks play a HUGE role in how many words can fit.

Not sure how we can estimate line breaks. I just counted the characters per line on the text currently on the token and used that as a measuring stick for what could possibly fit. It is possible line breaks could occur further down and shift the text but TPTB for tokens would have to test it out to be sure it would fit I wonder who could do something like that....

Chris Wiemer wrote: I think that the Barbarian Legendary needs something fun, but not necessarily powerful to differentiate it more from the relic. Perhaps put the DR back on it?

Doesn't the new Fury 2x/game qualify as something fun?

PalaDan wrote: So the HA grants +1 to Guard for a single combat?

I like that; the Paladin has to choose when to use it, it isn't an always on ability. And it's fine if it stacks with Amulet of Guarding (which I assume it does).