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Time to start the 2021 Token dev process 3 years 11 months ago #325

Wade Schwendemann wrote:

Bob Chasan wrote:

Jamie Campbell wrote:

Fiddy wrote:

Jamie Campbell wrote: Just curious and a potential idea.

Blood sacrifice whetstone.
Slotless. Reduced max HP 3 points to raise all damage of weapons +1.

It provides the risk-reward aspects of the player to test their ability to stay alive for a bit more damage per shot. Blood risk allows it to apply to all weapons unlike the other whetstone that applies to rares and below...


Interesting idea, but I'd probably bump up the number of HP you give up.


I was starting conservative. I agree and think the HP degrade should definitely cause a real decision. Perhaps 5-8 points. Or even a percentage ideal even though the math on that would be tough on the coaches. Say 10% rounded down...so 84 HP would lose 8 points so final HP is 76.

Base though could be 5-8 points of a drop of HP.


I like the idea but as a coach, I worry about recording 9 people then get to the 10th person who wants to play that token and now I have to change everyone's damage on the party card.


I think it would only be for the sacrificing player's damage, not all players.


Maybe I mis-read the original
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Time to start the 2021 Token dev process 3 years 11 months ago #326

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote: I like that idea Edwin

I would also like to see more retribution damage.

I know the belt of thorns didn't fare well, though I am thrilled I ended up with it as a random UR.

The trouble is amulet of thorns was just reprinted.

Maybe something in a different slot. Shield, or perhaps back, like a cloak?
Perhaps Ioun Stone? These tend to be defensive in nature, which I generally think of RD as being close enough to.


Necklace of the porcupine: add your melee damage bonus to your retribution damage (or maybe 1/2 your melee damage?)

Necklace of the Devil Rider: add your ranged damage bonus to your retribution damage.


While I love this, it may be too good.

Also, I'd like to be able to equip a new tonen and the amulet of thorns, though admittedly I'd replace if this became an option.
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Time to start the 2021 Token dev process 3 years 11 months ago #327

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote: I like that idea Edwin

I would also like to see more retribution damage.

I know the belt of thorns didn't fare well, though I am thrilled I ended up with it as a random UR.

The trouble is amulet of thorns was just reprinted.

Maybe something in a different slot. Shield, or perhaps back, like a cloak?
Perhaps Ioun Stone? These tend to be defensive in nature, which I generally think of RD as being close enough to.


Necklace of the porcupine: add your melee damage bonus to your retribution damage (or maybe 1/2 your melee damage?)

Necklace of the Devil Rider: add your ranged damage bonus to your retribution damage.


Wouldn't straight add melee bonus or half melee bonus to RD get into huge amounts of damage very quick? Maybe add your STR modifier instead?

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Time to start the 2021 Token dev process 3 years 11 months ago #328

Bob Chasan wrote:
Maybe I mis-read the original


As it wasnt my idea, I can't say for sure.
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Time to start the 2021 Token dev process 3 years 11 months ago #329

Marcques Domask wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Wade Schwendemann wrote: I like that idea Edwin

I would also like to see more retribution damage.

I know the belt of thorns didn't fare well, though I am thrilled I ended up with it as a random UR.

The trouble is amulet of thorns was just reprinted.

Maybe something in a different slot. Shield, or perhaps back, like a cloak?
Perhaps Ioun Stone? These tend to be defensive in nature, which I generally think of RD as being close enough to.


Necklace of the porcupine: add your melee damage bonus to your retribution damage (or maybe 1/2 your melee damage?)

Necklace of the Devil Rider: add your ranged damage bonus to your retribution damage.


Wouldn't straight add melee bonus or half melee bonus to RD get into huge amounts of damage very quick? Maybe add your STR modifier instead?

Some math was done on this last year, and if I remember correctly we quickly landed at +70 without trying too hard. Probably not a good idea to ever add.

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Time to start the 2021 Token dev process 3 years 11 months ago #330

I think it’s time for a +1 level transmute.

We’ve had the charming set, ring of fateful heroism, and cooks hat, over the past 4 years. It would be nice to be able to upgrade those to a transmuted level item

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Time to start the 2021 Token dev process 3 years 11 months ago #331

Iross wrote: Speaking of classes which have a slot without any good items, I'd like to see Rogue get anther option for the head slot. At the moment there isn't much (Hat of the Hellway, Charming Crown, Crown of Might and Crown of Charisma?). A hat which grants a couple of extra charm slots would be great, and with charms capped at 10 there's certainly room for more slot expanders in the token pool.

A bow with Viper Strike in the name would also be nice - it would be a viable alternative to +2 Assassin's Crossbow without requiring needlessly complicated text which references sneak attacking with a ranged weapon. Although it still wouldn't be an ideal solution for newer players as there's no real reason to reprint the other Viper Strike tokens at the moment and Monk/Ranger being able to get the set bonus from weapon slots alone may be an issue.


Maybe mix them up a bit. How about a head slot item that adds one Charm slot and one Ioun Stone slot?

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Time to start the 2021 Token dev process 3 years 11 months ago #332

Mike Steele wrote:

Iross wrote: Speaking of classes which have a slot without any good items, I'd like to see Rogue get anther option for the head slot. At the moment there isn't much (Hat of the Hellway, Charming Crown, Crown of Might and Crown of Charisma?). A hat which grants a couple of extra charm slots would be great, and with charms capped at 10 there's certainly room for more slot expanders in the token pool.

A bow with Viper Strike in the name would also be nice - it would be a viable alternative to +2 Assassin's Crossbow without requiring needlessly complicated text which references sneak attacking with a ranged weapon. Although it still wouldn't be an ideal solution for newer players as there's no real reason to reprint the other Viper Strike tokens at the moment and Monk/Ranger being able to get the set bonus from weapon slots alone may be an issue.


Maybe mix them up a bit. How about a head slot item that adds one Charm slot and one Ioun Stone slot?


Seems OP when you compare it to Orion's Belt. Would probably be BIS for a good number of classes.
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Time to start the 2021 Token dev process 3 years 11 months ago #333

Arnold wrote:

Mike Steele wrote:

Iross wrote: Speaking of classes which have a slot without any good items, I'd like to see Rogue get anther option for the head slot. At the moment there isn't much (Hat of the Hellway, Charming Crown, Crown of Might and Crown of Charisma?). A hat which grants a couple of extra charm slots would be great, and with charms capped at 10 there's certainly room for more slot expanders in the token pool.

A bow with Viper Strike in the name would also be nice - it would be a viable alternative to +2 Assassin's Crossbow without requiring needlessly complicated text which references sneak attacking with a ranged weapon. Although it still wouldn't be an ideal solution for newer players as there's no real reason to reprint the other Viper Strike tokens at the moment and Monk/Ranger being able to get the set bonus from weapon slots alone may be an issue.


Maybe mix them up a bit. How about a head slot item that adds one Charm slot and one Ioun Stone slot?


Seems OP when you compare it to Orion's Belt. Would probably be BIS for a good number of classes.


Would it be BiS for so many? I'm not great on BiS knowledge for builds other than Rogue so am genuinely curious, I'd have expected that Crown of Expertise and Blessed Redoubt Helm would still be pretty popular.
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Time to start the 2021 Token dev process 3 years 11 months ago #334

Endgame wrote: I think it’s time for a +1 level transmute.

We’ve had the charming set, ring of fateful heroism, and cooks hat, over the past 4 years. It would be nice to be able to upgrade those to a transmuted level item


The upgrade would need to be relic tier for a +1 level item I think, meaning it should either take at least 1 UR in the recipe or multiple years of treasure box only/completion tokens. A recipe that takes any URs that individually give +1 level and lock out a couple slots (hat, medallion, fateful ring) and yields a single slot that provides +1 level could be an interesting possibility.

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Time to start the 2021 Token dev process 3 years 11 months ago #335

Aegoce wrote:

Endgame wrote: I think it’s time for a +1 level transmute.

We’ve had the charming set, ring of fateful heroism, and cooks hat, over the past 4 years. It would be nice to be able to upgrade those to a transmuted level item


The upgrade would need to be relic tier for a +1 level item I think, meaning it should either take at least 1 UR in the recipe or multiple years of treasure box only/completion tokens. A recipe that takes any URs that individually give +1 level and lock out a couple slots (hat, medallion, fateful ring) and yields a single slot that provides +1 level could be an interesting possibility.

Charm of heroism took multiple items and made a single +1 level charm.

Given the theme on neck items, maybe make it a neck item and make it the first one that provides a benefit beyond +1 level? *1 level and +2 con, str, and dex? Ingredients could be a points Based combination of amulet of the champion,+1 level items and completion tokens, and then trade goods.

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Time to start the 2021 Token dev process 3 years 11 months ago #336

Endgame wrote:

Aegoce wrote:

Endgame wrote: I think it’s time for a +1 level transmute.

We’ve had the charming set, ring of fateful heroism, and cooks hat, over the past 4 years. It would be nice to be able to upgrade those to a transmuted level item


The upgrade would need to be relic tier for a +1 level item I think, meaning it should either take at least 1 UR in the recipe or multiple years of treasure box only/completion tokens. A recipe that takes any URs that individually give +1 level and lock out a couple slots (hat, medallion, fateful ring) and yields a single slot that provides +1 level could be an interesting possibility.

Charm of heroism took multiple items and made a single +1 level charm.

Given the theme on neck items, maybe make it a neck item and make it the first one that provides a benefit beyond +1 level? *1 level and +2 con, str, and dex? Ingredients could be a points Based combination of amulet of the champion,+1 level items and completion tokens, and then trade goods.


Maybe earcuff instead of neck? Neck is used for class legendaries. Earcuff is also closer in power level to rings/charms.

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