TOPIC: Ultra Rare Token Ideas

Greater Necklace of Surging
+3 to Spell Damage and Healing
+1 Spell Surge per game
Druid Only


Gives the existing spellcasting druids a nice bump over the Rare given the Relic doesn't benefit them

Matthew Hayward wrote: In my view, The charm and gloves of the cabal are pretty silly and useless, and the bracelet is underpowered. I own three sets and quartermaster my party and I’ve never equipped the gloves or charm for any reason than the set bonus.

Anyway - I want more cabal sets in circulation and I think the best way to get it will be to print new effects which are competitive in the slots they occupy.

In that case, why not reprint and improve the existing tokens? Why choose new slots instead of just improving the existing slots to the appropriate power level?


Also, if you're wanting to sell of those two extra sets, I know some people that'd be interested...

It would be cool if we gave a FoB shin slot item.

UR Greaves of Forceful impact
Reduces force damage by 3
Monk only
+2 force damage for melee attacks

UR Mirrored arrow figurine
Once per game, duplicate damage to a 2nd monster with a physical ranged attack

Matthew Hayward wrote:

Fiddy wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: New Cabal Set Item Ideas:

All items usable by: Bard, Cleric, Druid, Wizards.

All items count as part of the Cabal Set

Cap of the Cabal (Head)

Equipped:
1-2: Use 1 Spell w/out marking box off card
3-4: Use 1 Spell or power w/out marking box off card
5+: Use 2 Different Spells or powers w/out marking box off card

Cincture of the Cabal (Waist)

Equipped:
1-2: +2 to Spell Healling, Spell and Polymorph damage
3-4: +3 to Spell Healling, Spell and Polymorph damage
5+: +4 to Spell Healling, Spell and Polymorph damage

Contacts of the Cabal (Eyes)

Equipped:
1-2: May divide base+bonus damage or healing for single target spell among 2 targets
3-4: As above but +1 to spell damage and healing
5+: As above but +2 to spell damage and healing

Those are all pretty color-within-the-lines ideas - what are your better ones .

I'm pretty sure I've advocated for new Cabal items in the past, but I'm not as in favor of the idea as I used to be. Instead of 1 potential way to get the set bonus, you would now have 120 possible combinations. While that is awesome for making it easier for the individual caster to get the set bonus, it immediately becomes more complex for coordinating a group to agree on which items they'll all wear (assuming party members have access to the older tokens).

There are like 15 existing old cabal sets in existence that can be verified by forumites.

6 choose 3 is 20. There are 20 ways to come up with a set of 3 from 6 options.

In any case the only plausible way a cabal run will ever happen with synergy 3 or more is via prior coordination.

In my view, The charm and gloves of the cabal are pretty silly and useless, and the bracelet is underpowered. I own three sets and quartermaster my party and I’ve never equipped the gloves or charm for any reason than the set bonus.

Anyway - I want more cabal sets in circulation and I think the best way to get it will be to print new effects which are competitive in the slots they occupy.

I agree with having more sets in circulation. My group accounts for 3.5 of the sets. My guess is there are less than 25 sets in active use and likely another 10 or so in the hands of collectors who don't play casters very often.

We should keep them simple from a management perspective. I'd stay with the same slots but change the effects. I'm not certain magic resistance even exists anymore so the charm really needs to be revised. I've been getting a lot of use out of the gloves lately (stone to flesh on 2 targets rather than 1 and casting it twice using lenses of sage speed means bringing back 4 party members in a round rather than 1 or 2.)

I mainly use them for the double casting - I've never been able to be in a group with 5 sets but have been in groups with 4 so the set bonuses are a bit difficult to achieve. I'd recommend dropping those down with a re-print to 2 for the +2 and 4 for +3.

Fred

Figurine of Power: Mimic

1/dungeon: You can use the class card power of a another character during your turn.

Given the new Fighter necklace allowing you to swap to hit for damage why not make a new weapon finesse item?

Boots of Finesse
+4 to hit with melee and ranged attacks

gives Fighters a nice boost, also gives a hit bump to other classes than fighter who may not have the four winds boots and could benefit from some bonus to hit

Arcanist Kolixela wrote: Given the new Fighter necklace allowing you to swap to hit for damage why not make a new weapon finesse item?

Boots of Finesse
+4 to hit with melee and ranged attacks

gives Fighters a nice boost, also gives a hit bump to other classes than fighter who may not have the four winds boots and could benefit from some bonus to hit

If monster ACs continue the way they have been lately, I could see some melee Monks and Rangers consider these over Bot4W. Drop the 5 damage for a better chance at having both your hits land? Might be worth it.

Arcanist Kolixela wrote: Given the new Fighter necklace allowing you to swap to hit for damage why not make a new weapon finesse item?

Boots of Finesse
+4 to hit with melee and ranged attacks

gives Fighters a nice boost, also gives a hit bump to other classes than fighter who may not have the four winds boots and could benefit from some bonus to hit

+3 probably fits in better with Death Knight boots Mithral boots, and Boots of the north (?) wind

Choose +3 to hit or damage, or 1.5 to both

Arcanist Kolixela wrote: Given the new Fighter necklace allowing you to swap to hit for damage why not make a new weapon finesse item?

Boots of Finesse
+4 to hit with melee and ranged attacks

gives Fighters a nice boost, also gives a hit bump to other classes than fighter who may not have the four winds boots and could benefit from some bonus to hit

I'm down with this.

I play a good amount of fighter and find hit roll at a premium, especially in VTD. Some +hit at UR+ would be very appreciated.

Idea from a few years ago, Monk boots with a damage wheel. Monks can slide "kicks" and get back access to their bracer slot.

Picc wrote: Idea from a few years ago, Monk boots with a damage wheel. Monks can slide "kicks" and get back access to their bracer slot.

With the +1 Assassins blade, brawlers horn, and enchanters whetstone combo, is it common for people to use weapon bracers still?

Picc wrote: Idea from a few years ago, Monk boots with a damage wheel. Monks can slide "kicks" and get back access to their bracer slot.

This idea is great!