TOPIC: 2023 Re-Print Ideas

Oh yeah, reprint the 4 winds boots pieces needed to transmute. Same as above.

Mongo64 wrote: Reprint Gloves of Deflection.
Reprint all Rod of 7 Parts pieces and all Ring of Supreme Elemental Command pieces and reopen transmute so people who didn't have megabucks to spend years ago have a chance to obtain Eldtrich set.

I don't think those items required "megabucks" years ago. They require "megabucks" now though. Those Tokens were perks for people who played the game then and spent 7 years of their life buying and collecting Tokens. I think pigs will fly before a Rod or Ring piece is ever reprinted. If you want to join that train I suggest you start buying the Rings of the 5th Circle now and stick it out for the next four years or whatever the transmute period is.

This next comment is a general thought not directed at you - In today's culture of instant gratification, the "I got to have everything I want now, because, well, Amazon wired my brain that way" I'm hoping TPTB at TD continue to see the value in keeping some things sacred and special and not caving to the "entitled generation". It's ok to not have everything (unless your Trent). Life and fun times can still be had if you don't.

BeLinda Mathie wrote: In physical TD, Ektdar’s saves time.

^^ This. And even more so with the Rod of Persuasion.

I really enjoy doing the Rogue box, but I find I'm occasionally left out of the puzzle-solving if I'm stuck in a corner for 2-3 minutes (Longer if the DM needs to watch the party as they solve things, or reset something when they fail, and doesn't have time to supervise a lone Rogue). Sometimes I'll just use the Rod of Persuasion on the box so I can have more time to interact with a particularly cool puzzle, or I'll be glad for Ektdar's when we're in a room which will clearly take more time to solve than we've got on the clock, unless we get that clue to point us in the right direction.

Rob F wrote:

Mongo64 wrote: Reprint Gloves of Deflection.
Reprint all Rod of 7 Parts pieces and all Ring of Supreme Elemental Command pieces and reopen transmute so people who didn't have megabucks to spend years ago have a chance to obtain Eldtrich set.

I don't think those items required "megabucks" years ago. They require "megabucks" now though. Those Tokens were perks for people who played the game then and spent 7 years of their life buying and collecting Tokens. I think pigs will fly before a Rod or Ring piece is ever reprinted. If you want to join that train I suggest you start buying the Rings of the 5th Circle now and stick it out for the next four years or whatever the transmute period is.

This next comment is a general thought not directed at you - In today's culture of instant gratification, the "I got to have everything I want now, because, well, Amazon wired my brain that way" I'm hoping TPTB at TD continue to see the value in keeping some things sacred and special and not caving to the "entitled generation". It's ok to not have everything (unless your Trent). Life and fun times can still be had if you don't.

The problem with the Rod is that it's slotless and very powerful. If it were slotted, anyone who didn't have it could at least put something useful in that slot instead. As it is, the simple truth is that people who do not own it will never be able to have a character as powerful as those who do, regardless of what effect the current and any future multi-year transmutes might have. It's a bit of a moot point, since Jeff has been clear on not reprinting Relics, but for the reason above I'd be very supportive of a reprint if it did happen.

Raven wrote:

BeLinda Mathie wrote: In physical TD, Ektdar’s saves time.

^^ This. And even more so with the Rod of Persuasion.

I really enjoy doing the Rogue box, but I find I'm occasionally left out of the puzzle-solving if I'm stuck in a corner for 2-3 minutes (Longer if the DM needs to watch the party as they solve things, or reset something when they fail, and doesn't have time to supervise a lone Rogue). Sometimes I'll just use the Rod of Persuasion on the box so I can have more time to interact with a particularly cool puzzle, or I'll be glad for Ektdar's when we're in a room which will clearly take more time to solve than we've got on the clock, unless we get that clue to point us in the right direction.

This has reminded me of a token idea I had a while ago - a once per game rare Ektdar's. Now added to the Rares suggestions thread.

truedungeon.com/forum?view=topic&catid=686&id=254301&start=48#422685

Matthew Hayward wrote: It seems the Totem of Heroism is drawing a lot of controversy and math.

I have a suggestion:

Instead of making Totem of Heroism's ingredients available forever, periodically make Folio's of Might available (in the treasure mix, as a large purchase or early order reward, etc.)

Then people who want to play at 5th level slotlessly without Eldritch stuff can, and people who want a rare legendary token that is hard to get can have that too.

Yes! I think something like this is a better solution.

David Harris wrote:

Matthew Hayward wrote: It seems the Totem of Heroism is drawing a lot of controversy and math.

I have a suggestion:

Instead of making Totem of Heroism's ingredients available forever, periodically make Folio's of Might available (in the treasure mix, as a large purchase or early order reward, etc.)

Then people who want to play at 5th level slotlessly without Eldritch stuff can, and people who want a rare legendary token that is hard to get can have that too.

Yes! I think something like this is a better solution.

I'd suggest just adding it the treasure mix every 2-3 years as most people that order early or make large purchases have tokens to level up. If it wasn't hard to do, I'd say maybe even make it evergreen as a 5% chance in a starter pack for the dungeons? I'd assume keeping starter packs that were event only could be difficult though.

Then print something that is the equivalent to the Rod 7 or the elemental command pieces. Same functionality, same plusses, same minus, same damage protection. It's not about Amazon instant gratification, (I'm not saying just hand them out like candy), it's about equal opportunity to work towards an equal goal, in this case token effects.
Most importantly, and I know probably another topic, but, give EVERYONE a chance to play the green card alternative characters one adventure a year. (Perhaps an extra $10 a ticket for the opportunity?)

Mongo64 wrote: Then print something that is the equivalent to the Rod 7 or the elemental command pieces. Same functionality, same plusses, same minus, same damage protection. It's not about Amazon instant gratification, (I'm not saying just hand them out like candy), it's about equal opportunity to work towards an equal goal, in this case token effects.
Most importantly, and I know probably another topic, but, give EVERYONE a chance to play the green card alternative characters one adventure a year. (Perhaps an extra $10 a ticket for the opportunity?)

The green card argument is nullified by the skull. being able to green card once a year simply requires a skull which wasn't insanely expensive (cost of a legendary)...and the psychic is interestingly underused in my opinion because its hard to remember the 7 choices you have (3 times if a monk, twice with dark disciple shirt, etc).

...and as for the +1 on stats, there is enough segments out there for $150, you can pick and choose which ones you really need.

I don't think "things of the past" should be watered down...that is like saying, lets do an unaltered reprint of Spider-Man #1...to those who loved the concept back in the day, goes the reward of paying pennies for it...

Perhaps this is partially a matter of perspective on what one calls expensive. I've yet to see a Skull sell for less than $1500. To the non wealthy that "IS" insanely expensive. Its a mortgage payment.
Again, philosophical opinion, but, True Dungeon should be about playing the game, not about having to spend megabucks to play a green card character. If there was an opportunity to play said alternative characters without megabucks tokens of the wealthy, then I would withdraw my statements.

Mongo64 wrote: Perhaps this is partially a matter of perspective on what one calls expensive. I've yet to see a Skull sell for less than $1500. To the non wealthy that "IS" insanely expensive. Its a mortgage payment.
Again, philosophical opinion, but, True Dungeon should be about playing the game, not about having to spend megabucks to play a green card character. If there was an opportunity to play said alternative characters without megabucks tokens of the wealthy, then I would withdraw my statements.

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