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Final Transmuted Token Images 2 years 7 months ago #1

After some reflection, and several past years of complicated Relics and Legendaries, I decided to go back to basics with this year's Transmutes. These will give newer players a chance to get these basic stats covered. Thank you for your ineffable patience with this whole process. Next year I will try to carve out enough time to make it less crazy.

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Final Transmuted Token Images 2 years 7 months ago #2

Should the transmutes boots carry forward the immunity to surprise from the UR?

Same question for the bead.
Last edit: by Endgame.
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Final Transmuted Token Images 2 years 7 months ago #3

Back by default has one slot and is mostly about general saves.

Bead has three slots and has been kind of about specific saves.

Just seems like having bead be just as good as cloak transmute path is too much. +2/3/5 isn't bad.
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Final Transmuted Token Images 2 years 7 months ago #4

Jeff, I like the new transmutes. I agree, back to basics is good, and these should be a lot more in demand than some of the previous versions (the ones that weren't broken at least). They should be able to have expensive enough recipes to pull a bunch of trade goods out of circulation. :)

Maybe the Bead should be toned down though, Saves are pretty valuable and +4/6 seems like a lot for the Bead slot.
Last edit: by Mike Steele.
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Final Transmuted Token Images 2 years 7 months ago #5

Ian Lee wrote: Back by default has one slot and is mostly about general saves.

Bead has three slots and has been kind of about specific saves.

Just seems like having bead be just as good as cloak transmute path is too much. +2/3/5 isn't bad.


+1 to preferring 2/3/5 transmute path, also gives fair comparison at the relic level for competition with Bead of the Lucky Traveler (+1 save vs free movement).

Also, reiterating Endgame's question regarding carrying the effect on the UR through the relic and legendary level for both paths.
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Final Transmuted Token Images 2 years 7 months ago #6

I agree with everyone here about moving the bead to 2/3/5 and adding back the effect from UR tier.
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Final Transmuted Token Images 2 years 7 months ago #7

Powerblade3 wrote: I agree with everyone here about moving the bead to 2/3/5 and adding back the effect from UR tier.

I also agree, so that makes me +1 number 5 or something
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Final Transmuted Token Images 2 years 7 months ago #8

Agree power down bead one and carry forward add on ability would be nice.
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Final Transmuted Token Images 2 years 7 months ago #9

Oxford comma on the shirt.
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Final Transmuted Token Images 2 years 7 months ago #10

Arnold wrote: Oxford comma on the shirt.


It's funny, I've seen Jeff both complemented and criticized for use of the oxford comma. Sometimes he can't win. :)
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Final Transmuted Token Images 2 years 7 months ago #11

Mike Steele wrote:

Arnold wrote: Oxford comma on the shirt.


It's funny, I've seen Jeff both complemented and criticized for use of the oxford comma. Sometimes he can't win. :)


Just be consistent, though I'd prefer with it.
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Final Transmuted Token Images 2 years 7 months ago #12

Ian Lee wrote: Back by default has one slot and is mostly about general saves.

Bead has three slots and has been kind of about specific saves.

Just seems like having bead be just as good as cloak transmute path is too much. +2/3/5 isn't bad.


Agreed - I was going to suggest to knock -1 off both the Relic and Legendary.

Relic Bead of the Lucky Traveler is +2 to saves and free movement; from back when there was only 1 bead slot.

So I think a flat +3 to saves on a relic bead is good.

Partly for thematic, and partly for mechanical reasons I hope Pharacus' Greater Cloak of Destiny is not equaled or surpassed for saves unless by another Legendary cloak, or possibly a neck slot item.
Last edit: by Matthew Hayward.
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